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  • migra
  • January 16, 2021 at 10:18 AM
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  • Marielena
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    • March 15, 2022 at 8:25 AM
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    Ja sam napisala zasto su jucer ffa padali. Zbog porasta slucaja omikrona u Kini sto je dovelo do lokalnih lockdownova.

    Dugorocno moze dovesti do zagusenja i rasta vozarina. Kratkorocno to trziste ocito nije dobro ocijenilo.

    Imate clanak ovdje o tome.

    Zero Covid lockdowns to cause greater damage to China’s supply chain than the Russia-Ukraine crisis | Hellenic Shipping News Worldwide

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    • March 15, 2022 at 8:43 AM
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    Ja sam napisala zasto su jucer ffa padali. Zbog porasta slucaja omikrona u Kini sto je dovelo do lokalnih lockdownova.

    Dugorocno moze dovesti do zagusenja i rasta vozarina. Kratkorocno to trziste ocito nije dobro ocijenilo.

    Imate clanak ovdje o tome.

    https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/zero-covid-loc…ukraine-crisis/

    Ako pročitate ponovo članak primjetit ćete jednu zanimljivu stvar a to je da nema veze sa našim (drybulk) ffa nego se priča o kontejnerima

    Doduše i u nas i vanka to svi zovu...brodovi :S

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    • March 15, 2022 at 9:02 AM
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    Ja sam napisala zasto su jucer ffa padali. Zbog porasta slucaja omikrona u Kini sto je dovelo do lokalnih lockdownova.

    Dugorocno moze dovesti do zagusenja i rasta vozarina. Kratkorocno to trziste ocito nije dobro ocijenilo.

    Imate clanak ovdje o tome.

    https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/zero-covid-loc…ukraine-crisis/

    Ako pročitate ponovo članak primjetit ćete jednu zanimljivu stvar a to je da nema veze sa našim (drybulk) ffa nego se priča o kontejnerima

    Doduše i u nas i vanka to svi zovu...brodovi :S

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    Naravno da sam shvatila da se radi o kontejnerima :)

    Ali to dovodi do usporavanja gospodarstva, a onda utjece i na dry bulk.

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    • March 15, 2022 at 10:18 AM
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    https://www.braemarscreen.com/

    Nazire li se to preokret na futuresima...vidjet će mo iza 11 sati.....

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    • March 15, 2022 at 10:20 AM
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    Vrijednost brodova nastavlja rast...... ;)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

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    • March 15, 2022 at 10:40 AM
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    S ovakim porastima troskova zivota, rada itd, a jos se nitko ne buni gdje je vrh onda ?

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    • March 15, 2022 at 10:49 AM
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    Quote from tin

    https://www.braemarscreen.com/

    Nazire li se to preokret na futuresima...vidjet će mo iza 11 sati.....

    Mogući zaokret u pravo vrijeme! ;)

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    • March 15, 2022 at 11:02 AM
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    Zanimljivo kako Handy dobro kotira sa 2y TC i ima malu razliku od 1y TC, supre za 2Y pokazuju veci diskont u odnosu na ostale iako za sve vozarine za 2y su izrazito profitabilne, prakticki na razini sadasnje postignute vozarine za jdpl i atpl.

    https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/dry_1-1.jpg

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    • March 15, 2022 at 11:05 AM
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    • March 15, 2022 at 12:03 PM
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    Vrijednost brodova nastavlja rast...... ;)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

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    I još će rasti :) + što je porastao tečaj $ :)

    Kao i kod auta, sad je i polovnim cijena porasla.

    Kako sve poskupljuje, željezo, oprema, sve šta se ugrađuje u nove, tako ovi stariji postaju poprilično vrijedniji, a i manje im pada cijena nego novima.

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    • March 15, 2022 at 12:12 PM
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    C3 Tubarao to Qingdao t 29.075 $/ton -1.275
    C5 West Australia to Qingdao 12.377 $/ton 0.05
    C7 Bolivar to Rotterdam 15.570 $/ton -0.375 C17 22.575 $/ton -0.185
    BCI 5TC 23413 312

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    • March 15, 2022 at 12:34 PM
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    Nazalost danas izgleda nema okreta na ffa.

    Jos vlada strah da ce pasti demand u Kini zbog lockdowna.

    Treba se to smiriti.

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    • March 15, 2022 at 1:42 PM
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    Stalno nesto, k8neska nova godina, pa olimpijske igre, onda putin, sad lockdown 🙈, kad to ode ima da odemo na mars 🤣🤣🤣 ako ne eksplodira sve u 3PM 😂

  • jasko
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    • March 15, 2022 at 2:05 PM
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    BCI 5 T/C routes 180000 23413 312

    BPI 5 T/C routes 82500 26512 -1314

    BSI 10 T/C routes 58328 31913 -357

    BHSI 7 T/C routes 38200 28427 376

    BDI INDEX 2689 -38

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    • March 15, 2022 at 5:05 PM
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    Toplo preporucam ovo procitati. Odlican osvrt na trenutnu situaciju, geopoliticke i makroekonomske posljedice rata, odnosno ekonomskih sankcija Rusiji... by Zoltan Pozsar.

    Dolazi nam nova ekonomska kriza - kriza roba.

    Ceka nas visoka inflacija, recesija na Zapadu, eksplozija brodara (nisam sarkastican :S )... a u svemu ovome ce jako profitirati Kina.

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    Odlično mitkko

    Sličnu tematsku knjižicu, i podcast vezan na nju, objavio je Ray Dalio na YouTubeu.

    Uspon Kine i renminbija, pad USD kao transakcijske valute. Kina se dugo priprema za ovo, zato su spremniji nego ikad.

    Davno su pametni umovi govorili da selidba proizvodnih hala na istok ne vodi dobrom, kratkoročna korist samo. Kina je izgradila srednji sloj, napumpala rezerve svega. Na poslovima i novcu sa zapada.

    Sad su spremni na sljedeći korak.

    A sve se vidi u krizi upravljanja političkih elita EU i US, nema jakih ličnosti, nema vizije. Europi je doseg cjepivo i zarada na (opet!) kineskoj ideji lockdowna, a US je domet trumpovština, baljezganje o supremaciji bijele rase.

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    Evo i prvog koraka u zaobilazenju US dolara.

    Saudi Arabia Considers Accepting Yuan Instead of Dollars for Chinese Oil Sales

    Talks between Riyadh and Beijing have accelerated as the Saudi unhappiness grows with Washington


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.…les-11647351541

    Kad odrastem prestat cu uzimati terapiju i pretvarat cu se da sam Angelina...

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    • March 15, 2022 at 5:23 PM
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    Dio transcripta od SHIP-a od neki dan iako se radi o capovima ali isjecak iz njihovog pogleda na ocekivanja

    https://seekingalpha.com/article/4494519-seanergy-maritime-holdings-corp-ship-ceo-stamatis-tsantanis-on-q4-2021-results-earnings-call

    Stamatis Tsantanis

    Having said this, the initial assessment of the impact of the sanctions imposed on Russia, they appear to be quite positive. Historically, any disruptions in the established trade patterns usually create significant benefits from a ton mile perspective, which is favoring vessel demand. In this case, for example, millions of tons of coal for the global energy needs will have to be imported from longer distances. This we expect to increase the distance travel of our ships quite substantially.

    Beginning with iron ore, seaborne trade total miles expanded by 1.6% in 2021, and are expected to rise at a similar pace in 2022. With a significant rise, noted an extra from Brazil. Volume in Brazil, once again reiterated their annual guidance for about 350 million tonnes in 2022, which means that they will have to ramp up their exports considerably in the next three quarters to meet the targets, given that their exports a year-to-date were at one of the lowest points of the recent years.

    This is a usual pattern we have seen many times. Although this time, we expect the upswing to be much, much bigger. It is also encouraging to note that China's credit impulse has been expanding recently and policy support has been announced for infrastructure and additional projects.

    Meanwhile, seaborne coal trade was very supportive in 2021 as the increase in tonne miles exceeded 7%. A further rise is anticipated for 2022 and this is not just because of the recent war. Global economic growth resumes -- has resumed after COVID and power generation demand remains very high. As Braemar research notes, coal is forecast to remain more profitable for European power utilities until 2024. As coal to gas switching prices now indicate that it will not be profitable to switch from coal to gas before 2024 exiting out from Q2 2023 last month. The gas supply crunch experienced by Europe this winter has been compounded by Russia's invasion in Ukraine.

    Randy Giveans

    Sure. All right. That's it really. And then I guess just last question you touched on briefly there in terms of China extending steel emission targets and other things. Any big impacts you're seeing on the iron ore coal trade in the near-term related to any of these environmental issues?

    Stamatis Tsantanis

    Well, there are two super major events happening right now that are not necessarily associated with the environmental drives. The first one is the war in Ukraine, where Russia is exporting 50 million tons of coal to Europe with all the sanctions, as you understand 50 million tones or up to 50 million tons will need to be imported from longer distances and we're talking about much bigger distances here, we're talking about Australia, South Africa, Central America, North America. So, Europe needs coal, a lot coal and Russia right now is in sanction. So, up to 50 million tons a year might be diverted from much, much longer distances.

    The second is the guidance from Vale in Brazil, where it appears that the Brazilian exports need to effectively double up from now until year end in order to meet the target. So, they have been exporting around 500,000 to 600,000 tons a day. And that needs to be 1.002 million in order for them to reach the target. So we expect a massive increase of long-term miles. We're not seeing that yet. But the market has surely picked up from last month. And in our opinion, these two super important events will have a major role on the bigger dry bulk ships.

    Stavros Gyftakis

    Well, I certainly believe that 2022 has much stronger fundamentals than 2021. Some of them were expected. Then, some of them were unexpected due to the war in Ukraine. So if last year with worse fundamentals will show $85,000 in Q3, then one can assume that you will see stronger rates in 2022. But I don't want to give a figure.

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    • March 15, 2022 at 5:29 PM
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    Odlično mitkko

    Sličnu tematsku knjižicu, i podcast vezan na nju, objavio je Ray Dalio na YouTubeu.

    Uspon Kine i renminbija, pad USD kao transakcijske valute. Kina se dugo priprema za ovo, zato su spremniji nego ikad.

    Davno su pametni umovi govorili da selidba proizvodnih hala na istok ne vodi dobrom, kratkoročna korist samo. Kina je izgradila srednji sloj, napumpala rezerve svega. Na poslovima i novcu sa zapada.

    Sad su spremni na sljedeći korak.

    A sve se vidi u krizi upravljanja političkih elita EU i US, nema jakih ličnosti, nema vizije. Europi je doseg cjepivo i zarada na (opet!) kineskoj ideji lockdowna, a US je domet trumpovština, baljezganje o supremaciji bijele rase.

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    Evo i prvog koraka u zaobilazenju US dolara.

    Saudi Arabia Considers Accepting Yuan Instead of Dollars for Chinese Oil Sales

    Talks between Riyadh and Beijing have accelerated as the Saudi unhappiness grows with Washington


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.…les-11647351541

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    Samo dugorocno bi ih moglo stajat jer tendencija do sada je bila slabljenje juana, da bi se potakao izvoz, a tesko je ocekivat drugacije s obzirom na ovisnost o izvozu i opet dolarima i eurima u konacnici, jedio ako arapi odma ne iskoriste juane za kupnju kineske robe i odma taj rizik umanje.

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    • March 15, 2022 at 6:53 PM
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    Quote from D_artagnan

    Kao i kod auta, sad je i polovnim cijena porasla.

    Kako sve poskupljuje, željezo, oprema, sve šta se ugrađuje u nove, tako ovi stariji postaju poprilično vrijedniji, a i manje im pada cijena nego novima.

    da sam to pročitao prije samo dvije godine, grohotom bi se nasmijao.

    inače, živa istina. prošle g u veljači sam kupio dvije g star auto koji danas vrijedi 15-20 000 više nego što sam ga platio!!!???? fakat nekakva čudna i za...ana vremena.

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    • March 15, 2022 at 10:33 PM
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    Quote from accountant

    Odlično mitkko

    Sličnu tematsku knjižicu, i podcast vezan na nju, objavio je Ray Dalio na YouTubeu.

    Uspon Kine i renminbija, pad USD kao transakcijske valute. Kina se dugo priprema za ovo, zato su spremniji nego ikad.

    Davno su pametni umovi govorili da selidba proizvodnih hala na istok ne vodi dobrom, kratkoročna korist samo. Kina je izgradila srednji sloj, napumpala rezerve svega. Na poslovima i novcu sa zapada.

    Sad su spremni na sljedeći korak.

    A sve se vidi u krizi upravljanja političkih elita EU i US, nema jakih ličnosti, nema vizije. Europi je doseg cjepivo i zarada na (opet!) kineskoj ideji lockdowna, a US je domet trumpovština, baljezganje o supremaciji bijele rase.

    Display More

    Evo i prvog koraka u zaobilazenju US dolara.

    Saudi Arabia Considers Accepting Yuan Instead of Dollars for Chinese Oil Sales

    Talks between Riyadh and Beijing have accelerated as the Saudi unhappiness grows with Washington


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.…les-11647351541

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    jos malo pa ce sve transakcije biti u kriptu 🤣

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    • March 15, 2022 at 10:44 PM
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    Quote from mitkko

    Evo i prvog koraka u zaobilazenju US dolara.

    Saudi Arabia Considers Accepting Yuan Instead of Dollars for Chinese Oil Sales

    Talks between Riyadh and Beijing have accelerated as the Saudi unhappiness grows with Washington


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.…les-11647351541

    jos malo pa ce sve transakcije biti u kriptu 🤣

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    Polako, doci ce i to vrijeme.... : )

    Ima ona:

    First they ignore you,

    Then they laugh at you,

    Then they fight you,

    And then you win.

    Kad odrastem prestat cu uzimati terapiju i pretvarat cu se da sam Angelina...

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