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DRY BULK

  • migra
  • January 16, 2021 at 10:18 AM
  • StatusQuo
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    • June 11, 2021 at 11:15 AM
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    To bas i ne stoji, ATPL cijena je skroz u skladu s vanjskim bulk kompanijama

    Gotovo sam uvjeren da su prometi veći da bi i razine na pojedinim dionicama bile više.

    IF ni ne ulaze ozbiljnije jer ne vide strategiju izlaska kad do toga dođe.

    Pojedinim da ali govorim o atpl jer u usporedbi sa vani trenutno je to li la sta se tice valuacija

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    • June 11, 2021 at 11:17 AM
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    Ma siguran sam da je likvidnost veća jer ovo je sramota od dnevnih prometa da bi se drugačije valuirale mnoge dionice, a to se odnosi i na ATPL.

    Nešto mi govori da ćemo danas UP! :thumbup:

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    • June 11, 2021 at 12:11 PM
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    Baltic #Capesize index +15% to $28k/d

    Brazil/China +13% to $26k/d

    Jul FFA +3% to $39k/d

    Aug FFA +2% to $39k/d

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    • June 11, 2021 at 12:12 PM
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    Quote from jasko

    Baltic #Capesize index +15% to $28k/d

    Brazil/China +13% to $26k/d

    Jul FFA +3% to $39k/d

    Aug FFA +2% to $39k/d

    Znači danas opet BDI ide gore između 5 i 7%.... preko 2800 bodova.....

  • tizian1
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    • June 11, 2021 at 12:32 PM
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    Quote from tin
    Quote from jasko

    Baltic #Capesize index +15% to $28k/d

    Brazil/China +13% to $26k/d

    Jul FFA +3% to $39k/d

    Aug FFA +2% to $39k/d

    Znači danas opet BDI ide gore između 5 i 7%.... preko 2800 bodova.....

    Čini mi se malo više ipak

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    • June 11, 2021 at 1:13 PM
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    https://en.sse.net.cn/indices/cdfinew2.jsp

    Koliko god da bude, bit ce dobro.

    Bolje je jeftino kupovati nego jeftino prodavati.

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    • June 11, 2021 at 2:00 PM
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    Freight futures am update

    Capesize up ~3%
    Panamax up ~2%

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    • June 11, 2021 at 2:05 PM
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    bdi +7% 2857

    Supre čuda rade. Kad ta klasa raste u tsućicama tu više nema šale.

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    • June 11, 2021 at 2:06 PM
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    Route Description Size Value ($) Change

    BCI 5 T/C routes 180000 27752 3713

    BPI 5 T/C routes 82500 29718 882

    BSI 10 T/C routes 58328 28514 442

    BHSI 7 T/C routes 38200 24495 104

    BDI INDEX 2857 +188

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  • KicanCRO
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    • June 11, 2021 at 2:32 PM
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    Ups…triba biti jako bogat za ne biti unutra.

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  • Digga
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    • June 11, 2021 at 3:19 PM
    • #2,631

    Ne znam da li je ok ovdje staviti, ako nije molim admina da preseli:

    Situacija u lukama Južne Kine

    Luka Yantian zatvorena je od 25. do 31. svibnja 2021. godine kao mjera suzbijanja epidemije COVID-19. Zbog količine tereta koji se prevozi preko luke Yantian, zatvaranje je rezultiralo velikim priljevom tereta/kontejnera (“backlog”), kao i zagušenjima izvan luke. Trenutno je dio luke Yantian ponovno otvoren, međutim, radna snaga i produktivnost tek su na 30% prethodne razine. Sanitarne mjere ograničavaju pristup luci, kako radnicima, tako i vozačima kamiona.

    Zbog spomenutog zatvaranja, velik broj brodova izostavlja luku Yantian, a neki brodovi preusmjereni su u alternativne luke na jugu Kine. Luke Nansha, Shekou i Hong Kongu nisu u stanju prihvatiti nakupljeni, zaostali teret iz luke Yantian. Dodatan problem su i carinske formalnosti koje ograničavaju mogućnost preusmjeravanja tereta iz jedne luke u drugu.

    Kao rezultat toga, tržište se suočava s neprekidnim nakupljanjem tereta i kontejnera, kašnjenjima brodova, lučkim nestabilnostima i velikom potražnjom za slobodnim prostorom. Yantian doprinosi daljnjoj nestabilnosti cijena i ukupnoj situaciji s nedostatkom kapaciteta i opreme. U trenutku kada luke nastave s normalnim radom, očekujemo porast količine tereta u minimalno sljedećih 3-5 tjedana, kao i nastavak nedostatka opreme/praznih kontejnera zbog prekida i zagušenja uz prebookiranost prometnih tokova natrag u Južnu Kinu. Posljedice će se osjećati širom svijeta, u svakoj industriji, još najmanje sljedeća 3-4 kvartala.

    Razvoj situacije u luci Yantian možete pratiti putem seaexplorer. Ovdje možete pronaći dnevna ažuriranja o zahvaćenim brodovima, sve informacije o lukama i općenite vijesti o cijeloj situaciji.

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    • June 11, 2021 at 3:50 PM
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    Sto vece disrupcije to vise neefikasnosti to vise zauzetosti flote, a PLOVITI SE MORA.

    Sjajne vijesti za brodare.

    Bolje je jeftino kupovati nego jeftino prodavati.

  • jasko
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    • June 11, 2021 at 5:44 PM
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    Future are telling us BDI will go vertical for the rest of June (in process) and stay elevated for the rest of the year. Most drybulk stocks trade under 4x forward earnings.

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    • June 11, 2021 at 5:54 PM
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    Sad kad sam vidila ovaj jasko post iznad, sjetila sam se da sam danas nesto procitala. Bas sam pomislila jel moguce da cemo uskoro tome svjedociti. :)) Bas smo sretnici. :))

    U posljednjih 20 godina, BDI je bio iznad 3.500 samo 16% vremena i to sve u periodu 2004 - 2008 godina, a upravo se sprema. Tako barem kazu.


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    • June 11, 2021 at 8:10 PM
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    Steel prices are rising, ship equipment prices are rising, and newbuilding prices are rising! The past several months have seen a massive number of container ships ordered and both tankers and bulk carriers have steadily been ordered over the past year or so (which may lead to some resales taking place as owners want to capitalize on their foresight).

    Dry cargo rates rebounded in the Cape size market and rates are firm in all trade routes. In fact, westbound trade routes from the Far East are now earning similar levels from the Far East to eastbound rates to the point that there are no discounted “backhaul” rates anymore from the Far East.

    There are reports that the Chinese may be relaxing their Australian coal imports policy (as their stockpiles are low) which could release an estimated 75+ large bulk carriers. Will trading patterns revert to “pre-import ban” times and developments will be watched very closely as the ships discharge and re-enter the spot market.


    Kao da ne postoji sutra....

    Kamsarmax prices jumped up with the reported sale of the "PEAK PEGASUS” (82,026 dwt/blt 2013 Tsuneishi, Japan) at region $23 mill. which is some $2 mill. more than the 2013 built sister "PEAK PROTEUS" achieved about a month ago and although the former benefits from BWTS being installed this alone does not account for this differential in price.

    LEMESSOS QUEEN 76,565 2008 Imabari Man B&W 7/7 BWTS fitted $17.85 Undisclosed

    Edited once, last by gigic23: Merged a post created by gigic23 into this post. (June 11, 2021 at 8:13 PM).

  • jasko
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    • June 11, 2021 at 8:25 PM
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    DONAU K 58,682 DWT BLT 12 JPN 5 HO HA CR 4 x 30.5 T MAN-B&W 11,733 BHP

    SOLD FOR ABT US $19.6 MIL

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    • June 11, 2021 at 9:24 PM
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    A positive end of the week for Supramax paper with

    prompt rates chasing a thin offerside. July continues to

    build a significant premium to spot, trading to $33250

    high. Aug and Q3 pushed to $31250 and $31100

    respectively.

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    • June 12, 2021 at 12:05 PM
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    Izvedba Dionice

    ATPLJDPLTPNGULPL
    1 Mjesec Cjenovni Povrat19.94%9.45%-5.45%2.42%
    3 Mjeseci Cjenovni Povrat131.84%118.90%3.48%71.62%
    6 Mjeseci Cjenovni Povrat164.33%227.06%-9.57%95.99%
    Početak Godine do Danas Cjenovni Povrat180.41%207.18%-3.26%98.44%
    1 Godina Cjenovni Povrat110.66%159.81%-20.00%126.79%
    3 Godine Cjenovni Povrat-11.70%0.00%-14.05%-45.26%

    Jadroplov se prvi vratio na razine od prije 3g., ATPL bi trebala već sljedeći tjedan.

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    • June 12, 2021 at 2:20 PM
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    Da bi riječ rekao, samo tako....... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :!: :!:

    https://www.seebiz.eu/ekonomija/g7-i…as-i-put/259757

  • KicanCRO
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    • June 12, 2021 at 3:20 PM
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    https://gcaptain.com/chinas-buying-…s-are-clogging/

    ATPL prevozi jako malo zitarica u postotku, ali prevoze neki drugi brodari, pa ce manje biti raspolozivih brodova, sto daje ove futurese koje sad gledamo. Bit svega je da nema novogradnje i sve vise vjerujem u ovakve i vise vozarine sljedece dvije i pol godine. Mozda uspijemo i ne platiti porez na dobit.

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