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  • February 12, 2020 at 2:32 PM
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    • December 2, 2020 at 9:03 AM
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    Mining supercycle talk back as copper, iron ore prices surge to 7-year highs https://www.mining.com/mining-supercy…o-7-year-highs/

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    • December 2, 2020 at 10:20 AM
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    The unstoppable iron ore: SGX December futures continue their rally supported by a perfect storm of strong demand, tight supply and ever increasing trade war risks..                                                                 

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    • December 2, 2020 at 2:06 PM
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    Baltic Dry Index Falls 0.83% to 1,201
    Capesize -0.08% to $12,322
    Panamax -2.52% to $11,071
    Supramax 58k tons -0.14% to $11,209
    Handysize +0.37% to $9,919

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    • December 2, 2020 at 2:37 PM
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    Fitch upgrades 2021 shipping outlook as boxships and bulkers rebound https://www.tradewindsnews.com/finance/fitch-…ound/2-1-922793

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    • December 2, 2020 at 2:55 PM
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    Vessel scrap prices have broken through the $400 per ldt https://www.tradewindsnews.com/insight/scrap-…free/2-1-922513

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    • December 2, 2020 at 3:16 PM
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    Počeli su analitičari s Wall Streeta sa prognozama za brodare. Za neke i preko 1000% npr. SHIP Wall Street analysts have a consensus price target for the stock at $6, which means that the shares’ value could jump 1100% from current levels. https://marketingsentinel.com/2020/12/01/sea…win-over-bears/

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    • December 3, 2020 at 9:43 AM
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    Vale on its iron ore recovery: “It’s not a sprint, it’s a marathon,” CEO Eduardo Bartolomeo said Wednesday on Vale’s annual investor day presentation. “The ones that come to run with us will reap the benefits of big value creation.” https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/iron-ore-price

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    • December 3, 2020 at 10:46 AM
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    Coal prices rose to above $71 per tonne in the first week of December, close to the levels not seen since early February amid expectations of higher restocking levels and a boost in seasonal demand. https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/coal

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    • December 3, 2020 at 2:01 PM
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    Quote from jasko

    Počeli su analitičari s Wall Streeta sa prognozama za brodare. Za neke i preko 1000% npr. SHIP Wall Street analysts have a consensus price target for the stock at $6, which means that the shares’ value could jump 1100% from current levels. https://marketingsentinel.com/2020/12/01/sea…win-over-bears/

    koliko je ovo relevantna procjena može se iščitati iz slijedećeg qoute-a.. pametnom dosta

    "The SHIP stock price is -1756% off its 52-week high price of $9.28"


    baš me zanima kako izračunati pad od 1756%.. ne znam nas to nisu učili u školi.. i kakve to veze ima sa ATPL?

    Edited once, last by Kivi: Merged a post created by Kivi into this post. (December 3, 2020 at 2:03 PM).

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    • December 3, 2020 at 3:00 PM
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    Baltic Dry Index Falls 1.0% to 1,189 Capesize -0.39% to $12,274
    Panamax -2.74% to $10,768
    Supramax 58k tons -0.42% to $11,162
    Handysize +0.51% to $9,970

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    • December 3, 2020 at 4:23 PM
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    https://www.poslovni.hr/trzista/cijene…pljenje-4261816

    Zadnja rečenica.....čisto kao retrovizor.......potvrđuje da kinezi uvoze kuruza od amera ko ludi......a ovdje smo mjesecima čekali da se ti dogovori ostvare kako bi vozarine rasle a sad več mjesecima uvoze a vozarine i dalje u banani......kukuruz se pokazao kao banana....😃....i tako, čeka se, čeka a ono samo banane......za koga su banane pitam se?......soja, kuruz, banana......ko više i pamti trade deal, a vozarine, di su......

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    • December 3, 2020 at 5:48 PM
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    Quote from hugh

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    Zadnja rečenica.....čisto kao retrovizor.......potvrđuje da kinezi uvoze kuruza od amera ko ludi......a ovdje smo mjesecima čekali da se ti dogovori ostvare kako bi vozarine rasle a sad več mjesecima uvoze a vozarine i dalje u banani......kukuruz se pokazao kao banana....😃....i tako, čeka se, čeka a ono samo banane......za koga su banane pitam se?......soja, kuruz, banana......ko više i pamti trade deal, a vozarine, di su......

    Ne bih rekao da su vozarine u banani. Ako se uzme u obzir da je rast flote u ovoj godini preko 3.5% dok je istovremeno pad svjetskog gospodarstva 4.2%, vozarine za supramaxe npr. od 11k su više nego ok u ovakvoj situaciji.

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    • December 3, 2020 at 8:45 PM
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    Quote from Manu
    Quote from hugh

    https://www.poslovni.hr/trzista/cijene…pljenje-4261816

    Zadnja rečenica.....čisto kao retrovizor.......potvrđuje da kinezi uvoze kuruza od amera ko ludi......a ovdje smo mjesecima čekali da se ti dogovori ostvare kako bi vozarine rasle a sad več mjesecima uvoze a vozarine i dalje u banani......kukuruz se pokazao kao banana....😃....i tako, čeka se, čeka a ono samo banane......za koga su banane pitam se?......soja, kuruz, banana......ko više i pamti trade deal, a vozarine, di su......

    Ne bih rekao da su vozarine u banani. Ako se uzme u obzir da je rast flote u ovoj godini preko 3.5% dok je istovremeno pad svjetskog gospodarstva 4.2%, vozarine za supramaxe npr. od 11k su više nego ok u ovakvoj situaciji.

    Ako se na taj način gleda to može biti utjeha, ali po mom mišljenu vozarine trenutno nisu ni približno dovoljne za prosperitet i napredak atpl kao firme ......

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    • December 4, 2020 at 8:55 AM
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    Dry Bulk Shipping Update (BUY) - 'Tis the Season (88-pages)

    As we are soon entering the weakest period of the year for dry bulk earnings, we see limited upside and expect rates to extend recent losses into February. Share prices are however uncorrelated with season, and could hold up quite well. We revise our target prices down in light of lower asset prices and our revised iron ore export forecast, but maintain our very positive stance on dry bulk shipping. https://5f38c3be-c80e-4113-8699-341bc56851e6.usrfiles.com/ugd/5f38c3_505…896418dabbe.pdf

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    • December 4, 2020 at 12:09 PM
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    Vozarine rastu https://www.braemarscreen.com/home

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    Quote from jasko

    Dry Bulk Shipping Update (BUY) - 'Tis the Season (88-pages)

    As we are soon entering the weakest period of the year for dry bulk earnings, we see limited upside and expect rates to extend recent losses into February. Share prices are however uncorrelated with season, and could hold up quite well. We revise our target prices down in light of lower asset prices and our revised iron ore export forecast, but maintain our very positive stance on dry bulk shipping. https://5f38c3be-c80e-4113-8699-341bc56851e6.usrfiles.com/ugd/5f38c3_505…896418dabbe.pdf

    Ne znam koliko je ekipa ovdje shvatila tekst, ali evo jos jedni analiticari predvidaju nikakav ili slabi rast vozarina sljedeće godine. I oni su smanjili predviđanja i očekuju poboljšanje tek od 22. Pogotovo je los Brazil. A ekipa ovdje zna da slijedi čudo i po njima sve upucuje na rast :) Ajde dobro. Ono sta je isto zanimljivo je da oni misle da GOGL vrijedi 51% više nego sad, a kako sam pisao oni voze pozitivno i to iznimno pozitivno, za razliku od ATPL-a. Imaju 2x mlađu flotu. Imaju manji dug od ATPL-a, a glavnica ne dolazi na naplatu do 2023.g. i zaduzuju se s kamatom od 2,25% iznad LIBORA, dok ATPL ima kamatu sigurno preko 12%, a dobar dio glavnice mu dolazi sljedeće godine. GOGL-ov P/NAV je oko 1 dok je od ATPL-a negativan, odnosno ne postoji. GOGL ima ugradene scrubbere i filtere, ATPL nema. Itd. itd. Po kojoj logici onda vi mislite da ATPL vrijedi recimo duplo iliti 300kn? Znam da velika vecina vas misli da to vrijedi i preko 500. Kužite logiku?

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    • December 4, 2020 at 2:04 PM
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    Baltic Dry Index Rises 0.67% to 1,197
    Capesize +2.7% to $12,606
    Panamax -1.12% to $10,647
    Supramax 58k tons -0.37% to $11,121
    Handysize +0.16% to $9,986

    Freight futures am update Capesize up ~9%
    Panamax up ~3%

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    • December 4, 2020 at 2:21 PM
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    FFA Tone: Capes again better this morning lead by better physical on C5 and some short covering. Panamax and smax both remain well supported…good volume throughout                               

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    • December 4, 2020 at 7:42 PM
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    Fleet growth in 2021/2022

    https://www.breakwaveadvisors.com/insights/2020/…k-supply-growth

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    • December 4, 2020 at 10:15 PM
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    Brodari dobro potegnuli https://finance.yahoo.com/quotes/gogl%2C…r=1&bypass=true https://www.finviz.com/screener.ashx?…pping&o=-change


    Edited once, last by jasko: Merged a post created by jasko into this post. (December 4, 2020 at 10:20 PM).

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