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Tankerasi strani i domaci

  • brajakica
  • October 21, 2021 at 10:07 AM
  • mitkko
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    • January 29, 2022 at 8:41 PM
    • #361
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    Kolegice, nisi mi odgovorila zašto party. Malo te provociram jer mi je jasno da ni sama ne znaš šta si uopće tim postom htjela reći.

    Našla si nekakav post na twitteru, vidjela naslov - "cijena nafte raste", ključna riječ "party"... to valjda znači da će brodari profitirati?!? Raketa!

    Moram te razočarati jer članak nema s tim veze. Članak je zaključan, treba ti pretplata, kladim se da ni ne znaš šta tamo piše.

    Inače, članak govori o špekulacijama na opcijskim ugovorima, o takozvanom gamma squeeze-u. Pogledaj si definiciju.

    Šaljem ti screen shotove članka ako te ipak zanima šta u njemu piše. Vidiš ćeš šta su mislili pod terminom"party".


    Evo ga taj post sa twittera koji si bez razumijevanja kopirala:

    https://twitter.com/JavierBlas/status/1486336208468860932/


    Evo ti i screeshotovi članka:

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    Ha-ha...

    Toliko truda i energije a totalno promasena teza.

    Party zato jer demand jako raste korona ide prema kraju.

    Imate li neke projekcije za rast demanda u 2022?

    Podijelite s nama makar neciju prognozu za koju mislite da je dobra da vidimo kako otprilike vidite 2022.

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    Pa daj se potrudi barem pročitati šta piše u članku. Pročitaj za početak barem samo prvi paragraf. Znam da je lakše sa twittera kopirati tuđa mišljenja nego sama nešto pročitati, promisliti, pokušati shvatiti i formirati neke svoje stavove.

    Dakle, prvi paragraf:

    Supply and demand fundamentals drive oil prices. Things like OPEC+ production plans and U.S. driving patterns matter the most — until they don’t. That’s when the wizardry of Wall Street takes over, giving prices a push up or down beyond what the physical fundamentals warrant.

    Kad odrastem prestat cu uzimati terapiju i pretvarat cu se da sam Angelina...

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    • January 29, 2022 at 9:06 PM
    • #362

    mitkko

    Hoce li po vama u 2022 rasti demand?

    Koliko?

    Futuresi za naftu rastu najvise radi ocekivanja da ce korona oslabiti i osloboditi rast demanda.

    Avio promet je zakocen i tu lezi jos 2-3 mb za pocetak.

    Vase je pravo misliti da nece rasti demand.

    Promatrajmo

    U 2022 strani tankerasi su par % u plusu a tpng u minusu.

    Pohvalili ste se da ste prodali skuplje radi mojeg "druka" i najavili da cete i preostalo prodati. :thumbup:

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    • January 29, 2022 at 9:10 PM
    • #363
    Quote from brajakica

    mitkko

    Hoce li po vama u 2022 rasti demand?

    Koliko?

    Futuresi za naftu rastu najvise radi ocekivanja da ce korona oslabiti i osloboditi rast demanda.

    Avio promet je zakocen i tu lezi jos 2-3 mb za pocetak.

    Vase je pravo misliti da nece rasti demand.

    Promatrajmo

    U 2022 strani tankerasi su par % u plusu a tpng u minusu.

    Pohvalili ste se da ste prodali skuplje radi mojeg "druka" i najavili da cete i preostalo prodati. :thumbup:

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    Objasni ti to Bloombergu. Imas tamo link za kontakt pa im posalji demantij.

    Kad odrastem prestat cu uzimati terapiju i pretvarat cu se da sam Angelina...

  • brajakica
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    • January 29, 2022 at 9:32 PM
    • #364
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    mitkko

    Hoce li po vama u 2022 rasti demand?

    Koliko?

    Futuresi za naftu rastu najvise radi ocekivanja da ce korona oslabiti i osloboditi rast demanda.

    Avio promet je zakocen i tu lezi jos 2-3 mb za pocetak.

    Vase je pravo misliti da nece rasti demand.

    Promatrajmo

    U 2022 strani tankerasi su par % u plusu a tpng u minusu.

    Pohvalili ste se da ste prodali skuplje radi mojeg "druka" i najavili da cete i preostalo prodati. :thumbup:

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    Objasni ti to Bloombergu. Imas tamo link za kontakt pa im posalji demantij

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    Na niti jedno vazno pitanje ne dajete odgovor.

    za nista ne iznosite svoje ocekivanje ili prognozu po pitanju demanda,prognoze cijene bilo koje shipping dionice.... :( 😥

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    • January 31, 2022 at 10:21 AM
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    After the worst year in three decades in 2021 and a terrible start to 2022, analysts have just cut their rate forecasts and pushed back their recovery timelines, yet again. https://www.freightwaves.com/news/how-low-c…forecasts-again

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    • January 31, 2022 at 8:08 PM
    • #366

    TANKER ROUTES................................ Week 3 Week 4.............. Week 3 Week 4

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    • February 1, 2022 at 1:47 PM
    • #367

    Sutra opec+ meeting

    Povecanje proizvodnje za 400kbd ili jos vise od toga :/

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    • February 1, 2022 at 1:55 PM
    • #368
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    TANKER ROUTES................................ Week 3 Week 4.............. Week 3 Week 4

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    Dobro, ja to ne kužim.

    Jel t/c raste? Ili kaj...

  • brajakica
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    • February 1, 2022 at 2:04 PM
    • #369

    Amerikanci su zbrojili 2+2 sto ceka europa?

    Amerikanci prodaju svoj skupi LNG europi dok za vlastitu proiz el. en. kure oil.

    Tko je tu mudar a tko je vecerao buniku :/

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    • February 1, 2022 at 2:11 PM
    • #370
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    TANKER ROUTES................................ Week 3 Week 4.............. Week 3 Week 4

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    Dobro, ja to ne kužim.

    Jel t/c raste? Ili kaj...

    Stagniraju ali to ce se uskoro promjeniti.

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    • February 1, 2022 at 2:25 PM
    • #371

    Evo i najnoviji TC Rate........ ;)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

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    • February 1, 2022 at 2:41 PM
    • #372

    E da mi je kuna (ili još bolje ojro) za svaki put kad je neko napisao "evo sad će se to promijeniti na tankerima...."

    Ali dolazi i taj dan, i Godot s njim...:rolleyes:

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    • February 1, 2022 at 6:32 PM
    • #373

    Danas VLCC na all-time-low, -7.000 USD.

    VLCC spot rate found a new all-time-low to day at 𝗻𝗲𝗴𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲 $7,002/d on the benchmark TD3C

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    Kad odrastem prestat cu uzimati terapiju i pretvarat cu se da sam Angelina...

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    • February 1, 2022 at 6:47 PM
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    BCTI 583, danas napokon jače porastao +4.11%

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    • February 1, 2022 at 7:12 PM
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    Danas VLCC na all-time-low, -7.000 USD.

    VLCC spot rate found a new all-time-low to day at 𝗻𝗲𝗴𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲 $7,002/d on the benchmark TD3C

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    Zato danas tankeri vani i rastu 3-7%...

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    • February 1, 2022 at 8:01 PM
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    Danas VLCC na all-time-low, -7.000 USD.

    VLCC spot rate found a new all-time-low to day at 𝗻𝗲𝗴𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲 $7,002/d on the benchmark TD3C

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    Zato danas tankeri vani i rastu 3-7%...

    Poanta?

    Kad odrastem prestat cu uzimati terapiju i pretvarat cu se da sam Angelina...

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    • February 2, 2022 at 9:49 AM
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    Zato danas tankeri vani i rastu 3-7%...

    Poanta?

    Poanta lezi u odgovoru koliko tpng ima VLCC.

    Stng ima isti broj VLCC kao i tpng

    Stng u 2022. +14%

    Tpng?

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    • February 2, 2022 at 4:29 PM
    • #378

    MR2 Prime Express (46,000 DWT, Nov 2010, Shin Kurushima Onishi) sold to Greek buyers for USD 16.40 mil, VV value USD 15.18 mil.

    Realizirana cijena + 8% od procjenjene.

    Poanta? :/ :saint:

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    • February 2, 2022 at 4:57 PM
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    MR2 Prime Express (46,000 DWT, Nov 2010, Shin Kurushima Onishi) sold to Greek buyers for USD 16.40 mil, VV value USD 15.18 mil.

    Realizirana cijena + 8% od procjenjene.

    Poanta? :/ :saint:

    Nekoliko je tu poanti, ali evo za sada samo tri:

    • trubis o TPNG od jeseni, a unatoc tolikoj galami dionica ti je u tom periodu pala cca 10%,
    • sto se tice ove prodaje broda koju si istaknula, tebi vidim nije jasno kako se racuna i sto znaci prosjecna vrijednost necega,
    • zanimljivo je da si uz sve ostale brodove iz izvjesca koji su prodani za manje novaca od procjenjene vrijednosti, ti bas slucajno izvukla samo ovaj.

    Evo ostalih prodaja iz tog izvjesca:

    Tanker: Modern LR1 and older tanker values have firmed.

    LR1s STI Exceed, STI Excel, STI Excellence, STI Excelsior, STI Executive, STI Expedite, STI Experience, STI Express, STI Precision, STI Prestige, STI Pride, STI Providence (74,000 DWT, Nov 2015 – Nov 2016, STX Offshore/SPP) sold in an en bloc deal for USD 414 mil to Hafnia, VV en bloc value USD 369.64 mil – SS Passed.

    MR2s Aquila L and Arctos (50,000 DWT, Jul – Sep 2018, Hyundai Mipo) sold in an en bloc deal for USD 68.00 mil, VV en bloc value USD 69.06 mil – BWTS Fitted.

    MR2 STI Fontvieille (50,000 DWT, Jul 2013, Hyundai Mipo) sold for USD 23.50 mil, VV value USD 24.72 mil.

    MR2 STI Majestic (47,500 DWT, Jan 2019, Hyundai Vietnam Shipbuilding) sold to Premuda for USD 34.90 mil, VV value USD 32.32 mil – DD Due, Scrubber Fitted.

    MR2 Prime Express (46,000 DWT, Nov 2010, Shin Kurushima Onishi) sold to Greek buyers for USD 16.40 mil, VV value USD 15.18 mil.

    Small Chemical Tanker Celsius Manila (20,000 DWT, Mar 2002, Shin Kurushima) sold to South Korean buyers for USD 7.85 mil, VV value USD 8.34 mil – SS/DD Due, BWTS Fitted.


    PS. Glupo ti je ovako manipulirati s podacima, ima nas vise koji pratimo ta ista izvjesca, ali samo naprijed, necu ti se vise petljati u sheme, imam drugog posla.

    Kad odrastem prestat cu uzimati terapiju i pretvarat cu se da sam Angelina...

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    • February 2, 2022 at 6:03 PM
    • #380

    Na kraju će se sve svesti jeli i koliko tankera sa SPOT-a Tankerska u prosincu prebacila na ugovor, u doba kada je BCTI poletio na preko 800... :/

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