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  • zlocesti
  • August 24, 2021 at 8:35 AM
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    • January 19, 2022 at 12:35 PM
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    Kolega Loosert to misli čovjek sa 8 razreda osnovne škole, a što misle doktori ekonomije sa zagrebačkog sveučilišta?

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    • January 19, 2022 at 12:41 PM
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    Quote from plavi05

    Kolega Loosert to misli čovjek sa 8 razreda osnovne škole, a što misle doktori ekonomije sa zagrebačkog sveučilišta?

    Neznam sta doticni misle ali znam da bi volio da sam i ja isao u tu vasu osnovnu skolu ;)

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    • January 19, 2022 at 8:03 PM
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    Instability Or Inflation, Which Will The Fed Choose? | Investing.com
    Market Overview Analysis by Michael Lebowitz covering: United States 10-Year. Read Michael Lebowitz's latest article on Investing.com
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    Ne znaju. Lijek je ,čini se, ubojiti nego bolest.

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    • January 19, 2022 at 9:16 PM
    • #84

    ne znam za Vas, al čini mi se da novi ministar financija i šef HNB-a moraju biti iz Solina :S

    Hrvatski političari, gledajte i učite: Dioklecijan se istovremeno borio s pandemijom, najezdom migranata, inflacijom, opskrbnim lancima i prosvjedima. Evo kako je to riješio
    Sir John Bagot Glubb, general i povjesničar, je ustvrdio da svako carstvo proživljava sedam faza: doba pionira, doba osvajanja, doba trgovine, doba bogatstva,…
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    ''Dođu, tako, vremena, kada pamet zašuti, budala progovori, a fukara se obogati!'' - Ivo Andrić

    "Ako uvedemo porez na vlastitu imovinu, stranci će je prestati kupovati" - Krešimir "Superhik" Macan

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    • January 28, 2022 at 5:40 PM
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    Austrija zbog visokih računa svima daje 150 eura, a najugroženijima 300

    Gotovo sva kućanstva u Austriji dobit će jednokratnu novčanu pomoć od 150 eura, izjavio je u petak kancelar Karl Nehammer u austrijskoj prijestolnici.

    Ako Bog da bude u HR pomoć za 10kg krumpira

    ...i zaboravimo ono što smo naučili kad smo bili mali. Propuh ne ubija, propuh u ovoj krizi spašava. (D.B.)

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    • January 28, 2022 at 6:22 PM
    • #86
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    Austrija zbog visokih računa svima daje 150 eura, a najugroženijima 300

    Gotovo sva kućanstva u Austriji dobit će jednokratnu novčanu pomoć od 150 eura, izjavio je u petak kancelar Karl Nehammer u austrijskoj prijestolnici.

    Ako Bog da bude u HR pomoć za 10kg krumpira

    Lijepo je biti pozitivan i optimist! :S

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    • January 28, 2022 at 7:41 PM
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    Quote from KultLicnosti

    Austrija zbog visokih računa svima daje 150 eura, a najugroženijima 300

    Gotovo sva kućanstva u Austriji dobit će jednokratnu novčanu pomoć od 150 eura, izjavio je u petak kancelar Karl Nehammer u austrijskoj prijestolnici.

    Ako Bog da bude u HR pomoć za 10kg krumpira

    Mene samo zanima jeli to lova opet iz printera ilil odakle, da ne bi bilo da opet oni sda ami jos malo dodaju ulja u vatru, kao malo im je bilo svih ovih godina.

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    • January 28, 2022 at 8:32 PM
    • #88

    neznam kaj bi rekel... zadnjih 5-6, a posebno ovih 2 corona g su meni austrijanci totalna zbunjola!! poznajem masu ljudi koji tamo rade i svi vele gotovo isto. samo je dobra plača i kratak-dugi tjedan. ostalo sve je katastrofa. pogotovo kaj se tiče covid mjera.

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    • January 29, 2022 at 9:53 AM
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    Svi su na početku kovid krize zazivali više države i pomoći ali moramo ponovo učiti da je tržište i zakon ponude i potražnje jedino prirodno ponašanje i ako hitno nebudemo smanjivali utjecaj države na tržišne tokove imati će mo velikih problema, pa zato smo napustili socijalizam i prihvatili tržišnu ekonomiju. Prvi Vladin potez bi trebao biti povlačenje političara i države iz HEPa pa zatim uključivanje građana i Mirovinskih fondova u program s OIE.

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    • January 29, 2022 at 1:29 PM
    • #90

    Previse pomoci nikako dugorocno ne moze ispasti na dobro.

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    • February 1, 2022 at 12:16 AM
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    Jedan zanimljiv pogled na sve ovo i zanimljivo stivo

    Russell Napier: «We Are Entering a Time of Financial Repression» | The Market
    Market strategist Russell Napier talks about why he sees structurally rising inflation coming, why central banks are impotent – and what that means for…
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    Russell Napier caused a stir in the financial world one year ago when he made the call for a regime change: After almost thirty years in which the global economy was characterized by deflation, the market observer thinks that a phase of structurally rising inflation is beginning.

    Just like after World War II, Napier believes that governments will pursue a policy of financial repression in which the interest rate level is deliberately kept below the rate of inflation to get rid of the high levels of debt.

    The Market NZZ spoke with Napier about his inflation call. In this in-depth conversation, which has been redacted for clarity, he explains which developments will shape the coming years, how investors can prepare for them – plus why trying to forecast the velocity of money is akin to juggling an incontinent squid

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    • February 3, 2022 at 12:19 PM
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    Inflacija se tek zagrijava s poskupljenjima, porasti u odredjenim segmentima su drasticni, energija je bitan input u svim proizvodima da ne dodje do kaskadnog efekta poskupljenja sire robe

    UK energy bills to rise by over 50% in April as regulator announces hike
    Energy bills are set to rise drastically in the U.K. after the country's energy regulator announced its cap on prices would rise by 54% in April.
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    • The U.K. has limits on how much suppliers are able to charge consumers for energy.
    • Britain’s energy price caps are reviewed by the government’s regulator, Ofgem, every six months.
    • Ofgem, the energy sector regulator, said on Thursday that its price cap would be raised by 54%, marking a record-breaking increase.
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    • February 3, 2022 at 1:43 PM
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    Quote from StatusQuo

    Jedan zanimljiv pogled na sve ovo i zanimljivo stivo

    https://themarket.ch/interview/russ…ression-ld.4628

    Russell Napier caused a stir in the financial world one year ago when he made the call for a regime change: After almost thirty years in which the global economy was characterized by deflation, the market observer thinks that a phase of structurally rising inflation is beginning.

    Just like after World War II, Napier believes that governments will pursue a policy of financial repression in which the interest rate level is deliberately kept below the rate of inflation to get rid of the high levels of debt.

    The Market NZZ spoke with Napier about his inflation call. In this in-depth conversation, which has been redacted for clarity, he explains which developments will shape the coming years, how investors can prepare for them – plus why trying to forecast the velocity of money is akin to juggling an incontinent squid

    Won’t this just provoke another leg up in real assets, like equities?

    Yes. That’s why I’m bullish on equities and real estate. As the experience during the three decades after World War II has shown, in the early stages of financial repression, equities and real estate are beneficiaries.

    ovo se nekako uklapa u neki moj uvrnuti osjećaj za filing da će dionice i dalje rasti... pa i kod nas. Unatoč rate hikes. Vani se sada malo ispuhuju neki baloni kako vidimo i kad to stane ide novi rast svega. I mi se dobro držimo iznad 2000 bodova. Kažem vam postoji šansa da se Puris D.D. ponovno uvrtsi na burzu :) a onda će perje letjeti. Uglavnom imamo dobar alat za kompenzaciju visoke inflacije koja nam jede ušteđevinu. A to je ZSE. Daj bože da bude tako :thumbup:

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    • February 3, 2022 at 2:05 PM
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    So let’s take the playbook after the war: For about twenty years, we saw high nominal growth, followed by a long period of stagflation. What are we looking at today?

    For the average guy in the street, financial repression can look quite good. Let’s say your wage is going up at 5%, and your mortgage rate is 3%. This is not a bad world to be in at all, arguably for the majority of the population even if their wages only grow in line with inflation. The person who pays the price for this is the saver. Even if you just took the period from 1945 to 1957, which was the period where everybody was doing quite well, you lost 35% of your savings if you held British sovereign bonds.

    It was a fantastic time for equities, though.

    Absolutely, if you had been in equities during that time, you did very well. That’s why I’m bullish for equities today. However, there is one crucial difference: At the end of the war, the yield on ten year Treasuries was 2,5%, and the dividend yield for equities was 10%. Equities started the period of financial repression at dirt cheap valuations. From 1945 to 1966, you had this catch-up where the cyclically-adjusted P/E went from 9x to 25x. Today, equities enter this period at an already very rich valuation.

    And then came the era of stagflation.

    Starting in the late Sixties, we entered stagflation. There were many factors, and the oil crises were certainly important. But basically the problem is, in the long run, if you put the wrong cost of capital into the economy, you get a misallocation of capital. The word stagflation wasn’t invented until 1966, because we had never seen it before. It was invented by Iain Macleod, who was then the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Over a prolonged period of time after 1945 capital was misallocated, and this resulted in productive capacity not being added in the right places and people not being employed.

    Do you expect a repeat of this pattern, first a boom, and then stagflation?

    Yes, but I wouldn’t expect the boom phase to last that long. So even though I’m bullish for equities at the moment, the difference this time is they start at an overvaluation, rather than at an undervaluation. A repeat of the long boom from 1945 to 1966 for equities is unlikely.

    How long can the good times last?

    The first stage can go on for three or four years. That’s short compared to after World War II, but it’s long for many people. The time to sell equities is when governments formally force savings institutions to buy more bonds. Because in order to buy, they will have to sell equities.

    And after that, there will be stagflation?

    If we agree that stagflation is a consequence of a long period of misallocated capital driven by financial repression, then we have to expect it to happen again. You misallocate capital, and you get high inflation and high unemployment.

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    • February 3, 2022 at 3:11 PM
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    Inflacija se super stvar za zaduzena drustva koju tu inflaciju mogu prenit na kranjeg potrosaca, primjer brodara za koje se i kaze da su dobri u doba inflacije jer prvo radi inflacije vrijednost asseta im raste, a s druge strane sami biznis je taj koji stvara tu istu inflaciju indirektno, a onda im zbog toga naglo nastane ogromni nesrazmjer izmedju cijelokupne imovine i duga, jer sve u njihovom biznisu je volatilno ovisno o situaciji na marketu u odnosu na dug, uostalom vidimo i zadnjih 10 godina na nasoj burzi sva prezaduzena drustva su ili bankrotirala ili se jedva odrzavaju, samo iz razloga sta je izostala inflacija jer ocito iz samog poslovanja i nakon urusavanja asseta nisu nikako mogli taj dug vratit sta god radili u svom poslovanju, da je bilo inflacije onda bi i asset s vremenom rastao zajedno sa cijenom uslugom i dug bi se lakse servisirao, npr kao sta su ameri malo drugacije dobili inflaciju, kroz QE su uspjeli napucat cijenu asseta koji je dopustao vracanje duga i stvaranje novog samo sta inflacija ne mjeri cijenu asseta, zato sad ocito imamo posljedice ove inflacije iako je bila stalno samo ne u cijeloj ekonomiji. Postoje ciklusi kada se ulaze u growth, kada u value ili oboje, drugi problem je sta mi nemamo nikakve growth kompanije pa onda imamo rupu na zse od desetljeca dok se ciklus ne okrene jer nemamo kompanije koji mogu napravit znacajan rast na temelju organskog rasta, a nismo jedini samo kod nas je to vise izarazeno.

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    • February 3, 2022 at 3:30 PM
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    drugi problem je sta mi nemamo nikakve growth kompanije pa onda imamo rupu na zse od desetljeca dok se ciklus ne okrene jer nemamo kompanije koji mogu napravit znacajan rast na temelju organskog rasta, a nismo jedini samo kod nas je to vise izarazeno.

    StatusQuo sve 5, iako i sam Russel kaže da je razlika ta što su već sad valuacije američkih dionica visoke (iako vidimo da se neke korigiraju bez većeg pada indexa) a moje je mišljenje da naše nisu. Je da su mnoge firme banana ali ima onih koje nisu i dio su naših indexa i rast (ako ga bude) preliti će se i na te banana stocks jer će narod tražiti način kako sačuvati ušteđevinu koju nagriza inflacija. Vrlo brzo dođe do FOMO-a, taman smo ga imali prije sloma agrokora, i onda ćorak... možda ovaj put uspije a možda je sve ovo što pišem wishful thinking. Ne znam, ali ovo što Ruseel govori ima smisla. Meni pašu svi smjerovi, samo mi ne paše ova status quo situacija na našoj burzi... na tome nema zarade :)

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    • February 8, 2022 at 11:49 PM
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    Ovih dana po vijestima slusam nesto stalno o ogranicavanju cijena prvo goriva, a sad se i hrana spominje, a negdje vani to se vec i dogadja, Sjecam se jednog zgodnog uratka na tu tematiku koji sam nedavno pogledao uz njega postoji jos nekoliko dijelova na istu tematiku malo detaljnje jako zgodno za razumit stvari, btw sta vise citam ovo sve vise podsjeca na te 1970 kako se ponasaju, pokusavaju stvari iskontrolirati nekim trzisnim zadiranjima, koji ako pretjeraju samo vodi u jos gore, problem je sta je rijesenje u cijeni love, a nitko ne zeli biti prvi koji ce to napravit.


    Price Ceilings: The US Economy Flounders in the 1970s

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    • February 9, 2022 at 9:31 AM
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    Lagarde šokirala ‘planom‘ za obuzdavanje inflacije: ‘Samo neka se smanji kupovna moć građana, to će prigušiti izglede...‘
    Europska središnja banka neće žuriti sa zaoštravanjem monetarne politike, ponovila je predsjednica ECB-a Christine Lagarde, ocijenivši da bi slabija kupovna…
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    Bože, pomozi nam

    Prvo su cijenili da će inflacija biti privremena, a sada se uzdaju da će nestati Čudom , a ne njihovom intervencijom

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    • February 9, 2022 at 9:35 AM
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    Je, jednom kad krene spirala onda će se češati iza uha

    a krenut će jer je baza inflatornih pritisaka na plinu i dieselu (energiji)

    samo treba vremena da se kroz proizvodni proces ta viša cijena 'spusti' do potrošača

    gdje nađu takve ljude da vode monetarnu i fiskalnu politiku?

    nepotizam i mediokriteti

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    • February 9, 2022 at 9:42 AM
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    Da, stvaraju se preduvijeti za veliko sra..e.

    ECB je kasnio sa popuštanjem i onim poznatim Merkelinim stezanjem remena.

    Sad kasne sa podizanjem.

    A što možeš, kad ih guše briselske birokratske pijavice.

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