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Tankerasi strani i domaci

  • brajakica
  • October 21, 2021 at 10:07 AM
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    • March 21, 2022 at 9:10 AM
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    • March 21, 2022 at 8:39 PM
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    MR Average Earnings $21,253
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        

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    • March 21, 2022 at 10:10 PM
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    @mittko

    "Poanta - MR vozarine i dalje karastrofa"

    "MR Average Earnings $21,253"

    Tko zivi u "deluziji"? Tko siri "deluzije"? :/ ;(  :saint:

    U 2022.

    Tpng -4%🤪🤭

    PXS ASC STNG +43%🏔️🚀🌛🐰

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    • March 21, 2022 at 10:16 PM
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    Quote from brajakica

    "MR Average Earnings $21,253"

    Tko zivi u deluziji? Tko siri "deluzije"? :/ ;(  :saint:

    U 2022.

    Tpng -4%🤪🤭

    PXS ASC STNG +43%🏔️🚀🌛🐰

    Onda kolika je SPOT vozarina za tankere TPNG.....4000 dolara/dan kako navodi Mitkko ili ova od 21250 dolara/dan... :D

    Imam dojam da se na ovoj temi ne znam tko pije, a tko plaća.

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    • March 22, 2022 at 7:27 AM
    • #585
    Quote from Marin83
    Quote from brajakica

    "MR Average Earnings $21,253"

    Tko zivi u deluziji? Tko siri "deluzije"? :/ ;(  :saint:

    U 2022.

    Tpng -4%🤪🤭

    PXS ASC STNG +43%🏔️🚀🌛🐰

    Onda kolika je SPOT vozarina za tankere TPNG.....4000 dolara/dan kako navodi Mitkko ili ova od 21250 dolara/dan... :D

    Imam dojam da se na ovoj temi ne znam tko pije, a tko plaća.

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    A da pitamo Jaska ;) Šala mala kolega, biće prije da mi ne razumijemo. :)

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    • March 22, 2022 at 8:40 AM
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    Quote from Marin83
    Quote from brajakica

    "MR Average Earnings $21,253"

    Tko zivi u deluziji? Tko siri "deluzije"? :/ ;(  :saint:

    U 2022.

    Tpng -4%🤪🤭

    PXS ASC STNG +43%🏔️🚀🌛🐰

    Onda kolika je SPOT vozarina za tankere TPNG.....4000 dolara/dan kako navodi Mitkko ili ova od 21250 dolara/dan... :D

    Imam dojam da se na ovoj temi ne znam tko pije, a tko plaća.

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    Ako su u 2022. sestre produktasice PXS ASC STNG na +43% sve je jasno.

    Tamo ne prolaze siritelji "deluzija" i institucionalci koji znaju kada pobjeci od zarade. ;(

    Nece ni na TPNG vjecno prolaziti "deluzije" samo treba biti jos malo patience.

    ATPL= odlican poucak.

    Trebamo uloziti jako mali dio strpljivosti WB-a :saint:

    Warren Buffett

    99.7% of his wealth came after his 52nd birthday.

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    • March 22, 2022 at 11:43 AM
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    https://compassmar.com/reports/Compass%20Maritime%20Weekly%20Market%20Report.pdf

    Tanker chartering has been all over the place since the Russian invasion of Ukraine began, especially in the Baltic

    where some Suexmax fixtures Black Sea/Med TCE's have been estimated at region $125-140,000/day while

    Suezmaxes in general are fixing below operating costs on most trade routes.

    There is overwhelming confusion on multiple sanctions issues (when was the cargo sold, true ownership of

    cargoes and ships, relets, agents refusing to handle some ships, etc.) as shippers rush to beat the April 22nd

    deadline for Russian crude and product imports to the United States

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    • March 22, 2022 at 12:03 PM
    • #588
    Quote from StatusQuo

    https://compassmar.com/reports/Compas…et%20Report.pdf

    Tanker chartering has been all over the place since the Russian invasion of Ukraine began, especially in the Baltic

    where some Suexmax fixtures Black Sea/Med TCE's have been estimated at region $125-140,000/day while

    Suezmaxes in general are fixing below operating costs on most trade routes.

    There is overwhelming confusion on multiple sanctions issues (when was the cargo sold, true ownership of

    cargoes and ships, relets, agents refusing to handle some ships, etc.) as shippers rush to beat the April 22nd

    deadline for Russian crude and product imports to the United States

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    Odlican clanak, ukazuje na srz problema trenutne situacije. Zato je vazno razumjeti od cega se prosjek sastoji, koje su dominantne/vazne rute, koje vozarine za koju rutu su u kojem izvjescu objavljene...

    Jedni jedu kupus, drugi meso... ali u prosjeku je sarma.

    Kad odrastem prestat cu uzimati terapiju i pretvarat cu se da sam Angelina...

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    • March 22, 2022 at 12:47 PM
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    Quote from mitkko
    Quote from StatusQuo

    https://compassmar.com/reports/Compas…et%20Report.pdf

    Tanker chartering has been all over the place since the Russian invasion of Ukraine began, especially in the Baltic

    where some Suexmax fixtures Black Sea/Med TCE's have been estimated at region $125-140,000/day while

    Suezmaxes in general are fixing below operating costs on most trade routes.

    There is overwhelming confusion on multiple sanctions issues (when was the cargo sold, true ownership of

    cargoes and ships, relets, agents refusing to handle some ships, etc.) as shippers rush to beat the April 22nd

    deadline for Russian crude and product imports to the United States

    Display More

    Odlican clanak, ukazuje na srz problema trenutne situacije. Zato je vazno razumjeti od cega se prosjek sastoji, koje su dominantne/vazne rute, koje vozarine za koju rutu su u kojem izvjescu objavljene...

    Jedni jedu kupus, drugi meso... ali u prosjeku je sarma.

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    Da znaci mozemo ocekivat da ce cim ova ruta od 100 000 dolara se ugasi da ce prosjek biti realniji i dosta nizi barem u pocetku, iako ovo sve s ukrainom bi trebalo dovest do vece potraznje za morskim prijevozom ako misle smanjit ovisnost o nafti iz ruskog cijevovoda.

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    • March 22, 2022 at 1:01 PM
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    Quote from StatusQuo
    Quote from mitkko

    Odlican clanak, ukazuje na srz problema trenutne situacije. Zato je vazno razumjeti od cega se prosjek sastoji, koje su dominantne/vazne rute, koje vozarine za koju rutu su u kojem izvjescu objavljene...

    Jedni jedu kupus, drugi meso... ali u prosjeku je sarma.

    Da znaci mozemo ocekivat da ce cim ova ruta od 100 000 dolara se ugasi da ce prosjek biti realniji i dosta nizi barem u pocetku, iako ovo sve s ukrainom bi trebalo dovest do vece potraznje za morskim prijevozom ako misle smanjit ovisnost o nafti iz ruskog cijevovoda.

    Je.

    Vidi ovaj kratki video, tip priča šta će najvjerojatnije biti sa ruskom naftom, zatvorili su neki dan neki naftovod prema Kini... jako je zanimljivo. Pojašnjava i zašto su skočile vozarine za Aframaxe, ali ne i za VLCC. Baltičko more je plitko, tamo ne mogu voziti VLCC-ovi pa su sada najbolje prošli ti manji dirty tankeri.


    Također, kod clean tankera je sada višestruka razlika između pacifika i atlantika (kažu istočno i zapadno od Sueza), trenutno je veliki disbalans u količini raspoloživih brodova... to se sada vremenom nivelira, brodovi se repozicioniraju pa je za očekivati da će atlantic rasti, a pacifik padati. Naftni derivati se sada umjesto iz Rusije voze sa istoka, a na tim rutama najviše voze LR1 i LR2 pa sada oni najviše profitiraju. Za MR kažu da će repozicioniranje brodova smanjiti i uravnotežiti vozarine istoka i zapada, ali i da će se do tada ovi početni šokovi oko Ukrajine razvodniti pa je pitanje šta će poslije biti sa MR vozarinama.

    The case behind rising East CPP rates
    While crude rates are falling from the peaks reached following the Russian invasion in Ukraine, CPP tanker rates continue their rally, especially in the…
    www.vortexa.com

    Kad odrastem prestat cu uzimati terapiju i pretvarat cu se da sam Angelina...

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    • March 22, 2022 at 10:43 PM
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    Sta se tice VLCC evo jedna zgodna mapa, po svemu sudeci njihova dominacija je na azijskom dijelu, VLCC mi je bas zanimljiv jer je prakticki najveci tanker, a njegove vozarine su najgore i u minusu, cijeli ovi oil flow je izgleda skroz poremecen tesko je razaznat pravu potraznju, taman kad se pojavila ukrajina u kini je zavrsila olimpijada i nakon poceli novi lockdowns, s time jos izlazimo iz razdoblja kada je potraznja za naftom najveca, a i pitanje je sada kako ce inflacija i moguci turisticko-poslovni poremecaji sta se tice putovnja utjecat na potrosnju nafte, to bi se moglo nadomjestit punjenjen rezervi zbog ovih svih rizika oko ukraine i potrosnjom s vojne strane, u svakom slucaju kako god okrenia cini mi se da je ukraina kljuc razvoja dogadjaja oko nafte, ako se postigne dogovor, nece doc do daljnih zaostravanja naftnih protoka i moguca je neka stablizacija, ako dalje eskalira sve veca je mogucnost veceg poremecaja s opskrbom iz rusije, a s time posljedicno i na naftne tokove u vecoj mjeri, cini mi se sta duze to traje s ukrainom da je manja mogucnost neke stabilizacije jer je onda vec kasno za neki casni uzmak.

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    • March 23, 2022 at 8:51 AM
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    Kad smo kod VLCC-ova, vidi ovu zgodnu grafiku... primjer za jednu rutu od neki dan, trenutno je strasna razlika u zaradi izmedju onih sa scrubberom i bez scruberra.

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    Kad odrastem prestat cu uzimati terapiju i pretvarat cu se da sam Angelina...

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    • March 23, 2022 at 8:56 AM
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    Naisao sam na jos jedan zgodan graf - odnos i utjecaj cijene nafte na potraznju. Ne bi valjalo da cijene nafte dugo budu visoke jer to destruktivno utjece na potraznju.

    Graf je stariji, ali aktualan.

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    Kad odrastem prestat cu uzimati terapiju i pretvarat cu se da sam Angelina...

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    • March 23, 2022 at 11:42 AM
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    Naisao sam na jos jedan zgodan graf - odnos i utjecaj cijene nafte na potraznju. Ne bi valjalo da cijene nafte dugo budu visoke jer to destruktivno utjece na potraznju.

    Graf je stariji, ali aktualan.

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    Da primjetio sam taj graf, mislim naravno nije to samo visoka cijena nafte koja je destimulativna to je opcenito u svemu tako svaki ekstrem dovodi do nekog pucanja sustava i poremecaja ekonomije, samo pitanje je koja je to cijena gdje taj ekstrem nastaje, meni se cini da su tu vece razine nego su trenutne, jedan od razloga koji recimo trenutna cijena nafte ne otkriva je da svaka ekonomija radi odredjene korake da umanje cijenu nafte za potrosace, realno za takvu usoporedbu bilo bi dobro imat nekakavu adjusted cijenu nafte sta je naravno nemoguce. U principu sve sta rade, pocevsi od feda i dalje je da odgadjuju pucanje ovog ciklus, jer problem je u demandu koji nitko ne zeli jace udrit i onda na ovaj nacin samo natezu pracku jos vise, zato je i pitanje koja je razina tog pucnja, za primjetit je i da ove cijene nafte na trzistu nisu prouzrocile toliku kolicinu nezadovoljstva i pada potrosnje, kao sta ni ovo poskupljenje stvari od 10% nije prouzrocilo nekakav sok, inace u normalnoj ekonomiji 10% bi bilo previse, ocito mi nismo u normalnoj ekonomiji, ljudi imaju vise za podnit udarac na djep cini mi se pouceni iskustvom iz 2008 i sami omjer vrijednosti na trzistu je iskrivljen ?

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    • March 23, 2022 at 8:58 PM
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    Maria Angelicoussis: ‘We won’t be lifting Russian cargoes’ | TradeWinds
    CEO tells TradeWinds why her group will not be lifting Russian barrels
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    Angelicoussis also admitted VLCCs have endured 18 months of terrible rates since the 2020 boom.

    “There is a lot less oil in transit and this has disproportionately affected VLCCs,” she told the conference.

    “Currently, with the war between Ukraine and Russia, this is having a big effect on the market. The US has banned Russian crude oil and products, the Sovcomflot fleet is facing issues and there is a great hesitancy to ship any Russian oil or products.”

    She added that self-sanctioning is taking place, with many owners “too wary” of carrying Russian barrels.

    As a result, European refiners are shipping in oil from further away, which is increasing tonne-miles, mainly on the smaller sizes of ships.

    “The tanker market has been depressed beyond what’s going on now. We are cautiously optimistic. We see inventories at five-year lows, demand coming back to 100m barrels per day at the end of the year and an increase in US crude exports,” she added.

    Angelicoussis also believes “no one will order” new tankers, as prices are high and shipyard slots scarce. “We feel the market will rebound.”

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    • March 25, 2022 at 10:43 AM
    • #596

    Povijesno iz proslih kriza potrosnja nafte nije bila pri vrhu na listi za stednju.

    Vise se u % stedilo na hrani,garderobi, na luksuzu.

    Ako se prilagodi za inflaciju ovo nisu drama razine koje bi rusile demand na kratak rok.

    Trenutno njegov rast vise usporava covid u kini.

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    • March 25, 2022 at 10:55 AM
    • #597

    Novogradnje i SH i dalje rastu i korealiraju sa rastom dionica stranih tankerasa i produktasa koji su u 2022 +40%.

    Sve je nacrtano,pesimisti su na potezu da pocnu dizati zadnji brod na svijetu kojeg plima nije podigla =O ⏳ :saint:

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    • April 1, 2022 at 10:28 AM
    • #598

    Nitko nista tjedan dana? =O

    Nitko nema interesa za tankerase? :/

    Ili ima pa se skuplja u tisini? :saint:

    Skupljajmo i dalje... 😁

    Novo povecanje proizvodnje.

    The group, known as OPEC Plus, said it would increase oil output in May by 432,000 barrels a day, a slight uptick from the usual increase of 400,000

    OPEC and Russia stick to a modest oil increase.
    The oil producers insist that the oil market is “well balanced” despite the Ukraine war and sanctions against Russia.
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    • April 1, 2022 at 7:35 PM
    • #599

    MR vozarine danas bombasticne... MR,38 +130%

    Poten clean tanker spot rate (VLSFO fuel, non scrubber) update for Fri 4/1; MRs :

    - LR1: 15,600 (-400)

    - LR2: 18,000 (-2300)

    - MR 37: 8,500 (+600)

    - MR 38: 16,700 (+9500)

    Kad odrastem prestat cu uzimati terapiju i pretvarat cu se da sam Angelina...

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    • April 1, 2022 at 10:13 PM
    • #600

    Koja je razlika MR 37 i MR 38? LR1 i LR2 je veličina, ali ovo 37 i 38 nikako da pronađem...

    Hvala

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