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    • August 24, 2022 at 11:45 AM
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    The 18,000 dwt general cargo ship Damgracht was inbound from Italy transporting a cargo of cement. The 13- year-old vessel sailing under the flag of the Netherlands had been authorized to move from the anchorage where she had been for several days into the port. During the inbound maneuver, a U.S. Coast Guard spokesperson reports that an engine alarm sounded on the vessel, and the engine shutdown causing a loss of steering.

    Outbound from Port Arthur was the 38,700 dwt bunker AP Revelin. The bulker registered in Croatia had loaded a cargo of wood chips and was departing for the Immingham port in Great Britain.

    Caught in the confines of the shipping channel the two vessels collided. The Coast Guard reports the bow of the Damgracht came in contact with the port quarter of the AP Revelin. The bow of the cargo ship suffered significant damage and the vessel took on water, although the Coast Guard reports her pumps have been able to handle the water.

    Cargo Ship and Bulker Collide in Sabine Pass Near Port Arthur, Texas
    A general cargo ship inbound for Port Arthur, Texas, and an outbound bulker collided on Sunday, August 21 causing significant damage to both vessels....
    www.maritime-executive.com

    Detailed explanation of the incident :

    POTENTIAL RELEASE REPORT

    CALLER REPORTS A VESSEL (NAME: DAMGRACHT) IS SUSPECTED TO HAVE LOST STEERING CAPABILITIES, RESULTING IN A COLLISION WITH ANOTHER VESSEL (NAME: AP REVELIN). THE FRESH WATER TANK ON THE PORT SIDE OF THE AP REVELIN WAS DAMAGED IN THIS INCIDENT. THE OTHER VESSEL DID NOT APPEAR TO HAVE VISIBLE DAMAGE. THERE WAS NO SHEEN OR RELEASE REPORTED AT THIS TIME. AP REVELIN IS A BULK CARRIER CARRYING PALLET BOARDS. TYPE AND QUANTITY OF FUEL ON THE VESSELS WAS NOT REPORTED.


    Incident on SABINE PASS , SEE GPS COORDINATES , PORT ARTHUR , TX , JEFFERSON , incident date 21 August 2022 10 42 - Atlantska Plovidba Dd ( VESSEL , Cause EQUIPMENT FAILURE ) (incidents)

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    • August 24, 2022 at 11:57 AM
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    +42.377 dionica ZA :thumbup:

    Upravo bio u ATPL, gospodične su izrazito ljubazne i profesionalne, sve riješili ekspresno. Svaka čast :)

    Za one koji su slali preporučeno poštom direktno u Dubrovnik, sve ovjerene punomoći koje stignu do kraja tjedna, pregledati će se i pridodati konačnom broju. Rok ističe danas u 15 sati, ako se netko dvoumi još ima vremena...

    Obzirom da je organizacija trajala 10-tak dana, prezadovoljan sam podrškom <3

    Kapa do poda svima koji su si dali truda i poslali punomoć. ^^

    Ja ću se potruditi da prođemo na GS 8)

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    2+2=4

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    • August 24, 2022 at 12:09 PM
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    Quote from StatusQuo

    The 18,000 dwt general cargo ship Damgracht was inbound from Italy transporting a cargo of cement. The 13- year-old vessel sailing under the flag of the Netherlands had been authorized to move from the anchorage where she had been for several days into the port. During the inbound maneuver, a U.S. Coast Guard spokesperson reports that an engine alarm sounded on the vessel, and the engine shutdown causing a loss of steering.

    Outbound from Port Arthur was the 38,700 dwt bunker AP Revelin. The bulker registered in Croatia had loaded a cargo of wood chips and was departing for the Immingham port in Great Britain.

    Caught in the confines of the shipping channel the two vessels collided. The Coast Guard reports the bow of the Damgracht came in contact with the port quarter of the AP Revelin. The bow of the cargo ship suffered significant damage and the vessel took on water, although the Coast Guard reports her pumps have been able to handle the water.

    https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/cargo-…rt-arthur-texas

    Detailed explanation of the incident :

    POTENTIAL RELEASE REPORT

    CALLER REPORTS A VESSEL (NAME: DAMGRACHT) IS SUSPECTED TO HAVE LOST STEERING CAPABILITIES, RESULTING IN A COLLISION WITH ANOTHER VESSEL (NAME: AP REVELIN). THE FRESH WATER TANK ON THE PORT SIDE OF THE AP REVELIN WAS DAMAGED IN THIS INCIDENT. THE OTHER VESSEL DID NOT APPEAR TO HAVE VISIBLE DAMAGE. THERE WAS NO SHEEN OR RELEASE REPORTED AT THIS TIME. AP REVELIN IS A BULK CARRIER CARRYING PALLET BOARDS. TYPE AND QUANTITY OF FUEL ON THE VESSELS WAS NOT REPORTED.


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    ….puno ugodnije ,pravno, da je udaren sa lijeve strane

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    • August 24, 2022 at 12:19 PM
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    Quote from Infinity
    Quote from StatusQuo

    The 18,000 dwt general cargo ship Damgracht was inbound from Italy transporting a cargo of cement. The 13- year-old vessel sailing under the flag of the Netherlands had been authorized to move from the anchorage where she had been for several days into the port. During the inbound maneuver, a U.S. Coast Guard spokesperson reports that an engine alarm sounded on the vessel, and the engine shutdown causing a loss of steering.

    Outbound from Port Arthur was the 38,700 dwt bunker AP Revelin. The bulker registered in Croatia had loaded a cargo of wood chips and was departing for the Immingham port in Great Britain.

    Caught in the confines of the shipping channel the two vessels collided. The Coast Guard reports the bow of the Damgracht came in contact with the port quarter of the AP Revelin. The bow of the cargo ship suffered significant damage and the vessel took on water, although the Coast Guard reports her pumps have been able to handle the water.

    https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/cargo-…rt-arthur-texas

    Detailed explanation of the incident :

    POTENTIAL RELEASE REPORT

    CALLER REPORTS A VESSEL (NAME: DAMGRACHT) IS SUSPECTED TO HAVE LOST STEERING CAPABILITIES, RESULTING IN A COLLISION WITH ANOTHER VESSEL (NAME: AP REVELIN). THE FRESH WATER TANK ON THE PORT SIDE OF THE AP REVELIN WAS DAMAGED IN THIS INCIDENT. THE OTHER VESSEL DID NOT APPEAR TO HAVE VISIBLE DAMAGE. THERE WAS NO SHEEN OR RELEASE REPORTED AT THIS TIME. AP REVELIN IS A BULK CARRIER CARRYING PALLET BOARDS. TYPE AND QUANTITY OF FUEL ON THE VESSELS WAS NOT REPORTED.


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    ….puno ugodnije ,pravno, da je udaren sa lijeve strane

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    Da po svemu sudeci prema informacijama odgovornost za sada je prilicno ocita na suprotnoj strani, s tim da se ovdje radi o sudaru u tijesnom kanalu u kojem brodovi trebaju vozit starboard stranom blize obali pa je i utvrdjivanje kretanja brodova i pogreska u istom lakse utvrditi s tim i odgovornost, a brod u ovom slucaju Revelin ovakve velicine u takvim uvjetima u kanalu nema nikakve mogucnosti pokusaja manerva izbjegavanja sudara pa se i s te strane smanjuje mogucnost izbjegavanja krivice drugog broda i prebacivanja dijela krivice.

    Sta se tice osiguranja i pokrivanja evo i jednog izvora.

    What does P&I insurance cover?

    The primary purpose of P&I insurance is to provide policyholders with protection against personal injury, illness and death claims from crew, passengers and so forth. P&I insurance also covers things like:

    - Liability claims as a result of collision

    - Removal of wreck

    - Stowaways and repatriation

    - Damages to or loss of cargo

    - Damages to fixed or floating objects

    - Civil liabilities imposed after pollution or oil spill

    - Liability under approved towage contracts

    It does not cover risks that would fall under a workers’ compensation policy or under the collision clause in a traditional hull policy.

    What is protection and indemnity insurance?
    Its roots trace back to 19th century London
    www.insurancebusinessmag.com
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    • August 24, 2022 at 12:44 PM
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    Quote from Vergilije

    +42.377 dionica ZA :thumbup:

    Upravo bio u ATPL, gospodične su izrazito ljubazne i profesionalne, sve riješili ekspresno. Svaka čast :)

    Za one koji su slali preporučeno poštom direktno u Dubrovnik, sve ovjerene punomoći koje stignu do kraja tjedna, pregledati će se i pridodati konačnom broju. Rok ističe danas u 15 sati, ako se netko dvoumi još ima vremena...

    Obzirom da je organizacija trajala 10-tak dana, prezadovoljan sam podrškom <3

    Kapa do poda svima koji su si dali truda i poslali punomoć. ^^

    Ja ću se potruditi da prođemo na GS 8)

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    Svaka čast kolega na angažmanu.

    3% nije ni loše iako sam se nadao barem 5%.

    No s obzirom da vjv 50% dioničara nema pojma nit prati da se dešava neka skupština, nekakve dividende, vamtetamte moramo biti zadovoljni.

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    • August 24, 2022 at 12:57 PM
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    Quote from StatusQuo
    Quote from Infinity

    ….puno ugodnije ,pravno, da je udaren sa lijeve strane

    Da po svemu sudeci prema informacijama odgovornost za sada je prilicno ocita na suprotnoj strani, s tim da se ovdje radi o sudaru u tijesnom kanalu u kojem brodovi trebaju vozit starboard stranom blize obali pa je i utvrdjivanje kretanja brodova i pogreska u istom lakse utvrditi s tim i odgovornost, a brod u ovom slucaju Revelin ovakve velicine u takvim uvjetima u kanalu nema nikakve mogucnosti pokusaja manerva izbjegavanja sudara pa se i s te strane smanjuje mogucnost izbjegavanja krivice drugog broda i prebacivanja dijela krivice.

    Sta se tice osiguranja i pokrivanja evo i jednog izvora.

    What does P&I insurance cover?

    The primary purpose of P&I insurance is to provide policyholders with protection against personal injury, illness and death claims from crew, passengers and so forth. P&I insurance also covers things like:

    - Liability claims as a result of collision

    - Removal of wreck

    - Stowaways and repatriation

    - Damages to or loss of cargo

    - Damages to fixed or floating objects

    - Civil liabilities imposed after pollution or oil spill

    - Liability under approved towage contracts

    It does not cover risks that would fall under a workers’ compensation policy or under the collision clause in a traditional hull policy.

    https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/ca/guides/what…nce-164293.aspx

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    Okvirno bi trebalo sve biti ok.

    Sve su to jedinstvene situacije pa će ipak tribati sve skupa razmotriti u detalje…

    Sporo se ubrzava,usporava i okreće…

    Pravovremena odlučnost uz komunikaciju most-most možda može pomoći??

    Dobro je da su imali pilota na mostu koji će također moći potvditi da nije bilo izlaza?

    Tehnički problem drugog broda je prisutan i to je dobro.

    Zahtjevna situacija izlaza iz kanala uključuje pilota tako da je i sva potrebna posada prisutna na mostu (nema pijanih,uspavanih,gladnih ili nešto treće) pa bi po tom pitanju isto trbalo biti ok.

    Možda su mogli biti “desnije” ali opet je tu pilot koji ih provodi sigurnom plovidbom i prilagođenom brzinom.

    Ali da su bili desnije i malo brži možda bi izbjegli 😅

    Više livo i sporije opet čini razliku😅

    Malo se šalim ali nevolim pravo 😉

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    • August 24, 2022 at 2:10 PM
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    Do kraja dana budu polupali kupnju do 400kn ko beba zvečku.Sve više nervoze.

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    • August 24, 2022 at 2:14 PM
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    moram ovako sa strane priznati da su neki lijepo iskoristili ovu akciju oko dividende, još malo i uzeli su skoro svih predloženih 60kn, a neće se sigurno odreći ni onih 20 koje je ponudila uprava

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    • August 24, 2022 at 2:46 PM
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    moram ovako sa strane priznati da su neki lijepo iskoristili ovu akciju oko dividende, još malo i uzeli su skoro svih predloženih 60kn, a neće se sigurno odreći ni onih 20 koje je ponudila uprava

    Moraju smanjiti gubitke :)

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    • August 24, 2022 at 10:15 PM
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    U donjem članku je slika oštećenja na brodu od ATPL

    Atlantska handysize ‘seriously damaged’ in US collision | TradeWinds
    Croatian shipowner says accident involving another vessel occurred at Port Arthur, Texas
    www.tradewindsnews.com

    Kocka je bačena, alea iacta est :!:

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    • August 24, 2022 at 11:05 PM
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    Uh lose. Cini mi se da je stradao aft peak, lifeboat i lifeboat launcher.... Minimalno 2 mjeseca out of action ako ne i vise....

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    • August 25, 2022 at 2:46 AM
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    U donjem članku je slika oštećenja na brodu od ATPL

    https://www.tradewindsnews.com/casualties/atl…ion/2-1-1282685

    Damgratch-ova slika uz Ravelina 🙄


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    • August 25, 2022 at 6:34 AM
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    Sve to ce osiguranje pokrtiti

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    • August 25, 2022 at 7:37 AM
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    Bome ga otvorio. Jel Revelin bio na ugradnji scrubera i to sto su planirali? Ako nije nek odrade sve u šutu… kad bude van dela..

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    • August 25, 2022 at 9:33 AM
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    scrubere ne ugrađuju na brodove, samo BWTS

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    • August 25, 2022 at 10:14 AM
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    Uh lose. Cini mi se da je stradao aft peak, lifeboat i lifeboat launcher.... Minimalno 2 mjeseca out of action ako ne i vise....

    Cijeli brod se napravi u godinu dana, a tebi treba 2 mjeseca za popravit malo vece ostecenje zada, moze potrajat dva mjeseca zbog logistickih problema ali ne zbog samog popravka, pa nije to auto to su sve komadi lima koji se izrezu i zavaruju sekcijski

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    • August 25, 2022 at 10:23 AM
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    Quote from Shogun

    Uh lose. Cini mi se da je stradao aft peak, lifeboat i lifeboat launcher.... Minimalno 2 mjeseca out of action ako ne i vise....

    Cijeli brod se napravi u godinu dana, a tebi treba 2 mjeseca za popravit malo vece ostecenje zada, moze potrajat dva mjeseca zbog logistickih problema ali ne zbog samog popravka, pa nije to auto to su sve komadi lima koji se izrezu i zavaruju sekcijski

    To su možda u Lencu ovaj finclek za vrijeme Yuge popravljali 2 mjeseca. Da tako rade i danas, kupovali bi ga za kunu.

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    • August 25, 2022 at 10:23 AM
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    Komadi lima kazes?? Da ok...

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    • August 25, 2022 at 10:27 AM
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    Komadi lima kazes?? Da ok...

    Nego kako se radi zeljezne ploce koje se spajaju zavarivanjem koliko vremena treba za to s obzirom da nije bilo nadgradja osim lifeboata, jedno ne znam sta je onim tankom vode jer se iz ove slike ne vidi gdje je, bilo bi vise posla da ga je pogodio gdje je nagradje ili po sredini broda gdje je strukturni integritet bitniji. S obzirom da se radi o amerikancima njihova birokracija zna bit spora i komplicirana pa je ovdje bitnija logistika rijesavanja toga i nalazenja brodogradilista koji moze odma pocet radit na tome

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    • August 25, 2022 at 10:40 AM
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    Kao prvo moraju naci dok, potom te "zeljezne ploce" moraju biti odredjene debljine i kvalitete. Potom ako je ostecen aft peak to je balastni sustav broda koji mora inspekcija pregledati i testirati. Pitom brod za spasavanje se mora dobaviti i instalirati naravno i sustav za brodicu. Nakon instalacije to se sve treba testirati i pregledati i izdati nove certifikate..... Ali dobro vidjet cemo, vrijeme ce pokazati tko je u pravu...

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