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  • migra
  • January 16, 2021 at 10:18 AM
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    • March 11, 2021 at 12:44 PM
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    Quote from D_artagnan

    Cudan smo mi narod definitivno, neki dan slusam kad su zapljenili onu drogu, da se u HR godisnje na te budalastine potrosi 2 mlrd kn ??!!? 😮😮 ejjj 2 milijarde kuna .... da 10% samo zavrsi na TK, jaooo..

    I onda vidis politicare sta rade, grabe sebi i svom pajdi, stvarno nikakve pameti, a tako malo ti treba da zivis sretno i ugodno .... zivimo u kraju koji je raj na zemlji, od klime i krajolika, a toliko ljudi ima inteligenciju ispod nekog africkog plemena, valjda zato ni ne moze HR drzava opstati duze vrijeme, jer je prevelika koncentracija bu..la na malom mjestu.

    ma bi oni investirali da na ZSE ima marijuana stocks :/

    :saint:

    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

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    • March 11, 2021 at 12:54 PM
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    Capesize Index $17353 (-$536)

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    prema padu kote 2000 i brže od očekivanja :/

    više nego pravi tajming da veliki brat prestane sa kanabalizacijom jer držim da manja braća nisu rekla svoju zadnju,da su uštopana u naponu snage slabostima velikog brata.

    sada idemo prema dijelu sezone kada je izgledniji suprotan scenarij,da veliki brat povuče gore svoju manju braću :thumbup:

    trenutno u dijelu kine radi zagađenja ograničenja u proizvodnji ali to su trenutne slabosti pa...

    margini čeličana se opet dižu a glad za zaradom će učiniti svoje.

    šteta za štediše ,zakapače,zazidavače....da i kod njih nema gladi ili barem malo straha od realno negativnog prinosa kojeg ostvaruju.

    sloboda izbora je zakon

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    #Ironore rebounded to $158 but demand concerns linger on. Futures suffered its worst run since Oct following 6% selloff yesterday after authorities in Tangshan ordered industrial enterprises to halt or cut production.

    ALI

    China’s benchmark steel rebar margin has seen a staggering recovery in the last few weeks, now deep into profitable territory for the first time since May of last year.

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    pad capesizea očekivano ,najavljeno,ništa ne raste vječno a i puno je raslo u kratko vrijeme pa je logičan korak nazad.

    očekujem to kao krakoročnu promjenu u trendu koji je generalno UP.

    uostalom tu su i manja braća i njih se nešto pita pa nebi bila senzacija ako gledamo far east danas :/

    ništa bez zdrave korekcije,uzimanja novog zaleta,iako smo se nabrijali na pad kote 2000 :)

    važno da nije upitno da će pasti a tek sekundarno....

    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

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    • March 11, 2021 at 2:01 PM
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    Baltic Dry Index Falls 0.51% to 1,970 in London
    Capesize -3.0% to $17,353
    Panamax -0.03% to $18,620
    Supramax 58k tons +1.66% to $22,557
    Handysize +3.3% to $20,691

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    • March 11, 2021 at 2:15 PM
    • #1,104

    FFA danas opet up, konačno i NASDAQ izlazi iz A-B-C korekcije (koju su ostali glavni indeksi već odradili) ..VIX i $$ je down, pitanje još kamo će..Treasury, Gold? :P

    Freight futures am update 01:57 PM · 11. ožu 2021.

    Capesize up ~2%

    Panamax up ~5%

    nakon jučer

    02:12 PM · 10. ožu 2021.

    Freight futures am update

    Capesize down ~7%

    Panamax down ~6%

    oligarhija

  • migra
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    • March 11, 2021 at 10:18 PM
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    to se zove potpis sa dalekosežnim posljedicama.

    po marfiju ide to i dalje ima plan potpisati još 2x toliko u sljedećih 10g. ;)

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    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

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    • March 11, 2021 at 10:30 PM
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    a ovo se zove rast na futuresima,nakon jučerašnjeg pada,brz i jak oporavak na neg. vijest o ograničenju proizvodnje radi zagađenja,čini se da je ta vijest brzo neutralizirana :/

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    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

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    • March 11, 2021 at 10:45 PM
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    ako netko još nije opsolvirao kako izgleda "ništa posebno",evo plastičnog najnovijeg prikaza na suprama.

    ;( 8)

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    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

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    • March 11, 2021 at 11:07 PM
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    #Ironore soared above $165 today on a stronger outlook for #steel demand as #China heads into construction season. According to Citigroup Inc., seasonal lift in China’s steel output and demand, as well as a rebound elsewhere, should broadly match a recovery in iron ore supply

    “There is not really a supply shortfall in the iron ore market, rather the price is rising to reflect stronger demand and limited supply,” Magnetite Mines director, Mark Eames, said

    China wants 12,000km of high-speed rail and 160 new airports by 2035 - Stockhead

    China's plans for more high-speed rail is the latest spur to the country's demand for iron ore as pressure eases on profit margins for Chinese 


    The implications of China’s economic growth targets for Australia’s iron ore industry are immense as the sector is already struggling to keep up with Chinese demand.

    Iron ore futures in the Dalian commodity exchange surges 4% after a plunge due to a curb on the steel production in Tangshan, but the correction territory is limited as the market still has a strong demand for steel.
    Coking coal futures rise more than 3.8%.

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    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

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    • March 11, 2021 at 11:43 PM
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    i dalje po očekivanjima.najavama....


    Bangladesh has also awoken and started to become competitive creating an even contest between both destinations. Some strong numbers have been paid for two VLOC’s this week which clearly confirms the current aggressive sentiment, in addition to the panamax bulk carrier reported below. With recyclers still being starved of tonnage....

    #947

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    primamljivo vrlo za demolition onog u što se ne isplati ulagati značajnije.

    važno si je u životu napraviti win-win ili zauzeti poziciju gdje je win-win.

    ako vazarine odlete u nebo i značajniji scrap izostane ukrcani neće plakati radi izostanka scrapa.

    ali ide scrap neizbježno jer su nove regulative nemilosrdne na korist svih koji su uključeni.

    najbolje od svega što će se sve odvijati "brzo" rokovi se bliže,bitno bliže nego ima nove tonaže na horizontu pa će se izgledno još jedna oluja spojiti u majku svih oluja.

    p.s.

    ovaj mjesec se očekuje pojačana aktivnost bangladeshi guys pa bi mogli svjedočiti nekim novim vrhuncima?

    živi bili....

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    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

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    • March 12, 2021 at 8:32 AM
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    advanced investing strategies lesson 9.1

    kako dobiti unaprijed sebi zadan razultat "ništa posebno" ?

    stimulus na stimulus?

    sinergija sssstimulusaaa? =O

    bingo :thumbup:

    :saint:

    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

  • migra
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    • March 12, 2021 at 9:16 AM
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    indija je nova kina kolikogod se netko silio preko svake mjere,proces je započeo i nezaustavljiv je.

    dokaz je i ovaj indijski stimulus od 550 $ billion u sljedećih nekoliko godina treba to usporediti sa kineskih 500 $ billion

    kojih je diglo iz pepela dry bulk u nebo u drugoj polovici 2020 ;)

    a šta tek reći za USA 1,9 $ trillion pa bidenovih najavljenih daljnih 2x toliko u 10g.

    a japan,europa,ostatak svijeta?

    svi se žele oporaviti od covid potopa i svi žele u isto vrijeme?

    koliko treba biti mudar?

    pri rekordno niskom orderbooku?

    pri regulativama koje ubrzano guraju u rezališta staru tonažu?

    joj,joj,joj.......

    sve sam bliže zaključku da nisam u investitorskoj karijeri vidio većeg silenje preko svake mjere.

    rezime po investitorski

    p.s.

    a kako se čini sa tričavih par milja kn u papirićima koji će vrijediti neusporedivo više netko uspijeva štopati once in a lifetime opportunity

    e moj narode,nebi ti bio u koži jer imaš za kladionice svake godine milijarde,za opijate milijarde,nastavite niz....

    i tako puno milijardi svake godine za razno razne gluposti samo nema niti mrvica od mrvica za.....

    poriv za empatijom prema ovom narodu me već godinama napustio.

    zar je za zamjeriti?

    pri vremenu i mjestu rođenja kakvog avg stanovnik ove planete se ne usudi niti sanjati?

    neizbježno će doći jednog dana na ovaj prostor ljudi koji će to zasluživati.

    ovaj narod mora evoluirati u nekim puno skromnijim uvijetima kako bi znao više cijeniti,podići svaku pa i investitorsku kulturu na bitno višlju razinu.

    svima nama po našem izboru

    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

  • migra
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    • March 12, 2021 at 9:22 AM
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    a kinezi koji su krenuli prvi sa stimulusom nisu još rekli svoju zadnju ;)

    Chinese 2021 flat #steel product demand is likely to be supported after govt outlined plans to boost domestic consumption of automobiles, home appliances at the NPC


    #IRONORE going through the roof and fine pellet premiums at all time high.

    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

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    • March 12, 2021 at 9:58 AM
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    The positive sentiment in Dry Bulk shipping is seemingly relentless, in-line with our longstanding view given the lowest orderbook on record and strong demand growth.

    After a myriad of reported S&Ps in February at higher levels, we revised our dry bulk asset prices up in our Shipping Weekly 7/2021. Since then, the S&P market has been relatively quiet, while one-year timecharter rates have risen significantly.

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    As we highlighted in our Dry Bulk Shipping Webinar 16 February, the relationship between 1y TCs and asset values is statistical significant and could at mid-February levels support asset prices 18-29% higher. With the recent surge in 1y TCs, the similar range vs mid-February would be 20-53%.

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    Given the continued strength of 1y TCs, it thus comes as no surprise that the bid/ask spread for S&Ps has once again narrowed with bids approaching asks. Thus, we have so far in March seen S&P activity increase at a higher level vs February transactions. We believe these latest transactions represents a new equilibrium and hence raises our generic dry bulk valuation assessments by 0-25% depending on vessel class and vintage:


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    On this basis, our dry bulk asset price index is up a staggering 19% q/q, and we forecast another 39% upside over the next two years.

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    We raise our target prices on all our covered dry bulk companies in light of our revised asset prices and positive impact on NAVs. The biggest increase is undoubtedly on Eagle Bulk (TP +52%) as we have also revised our scrubber premium forecast in light of the recent surge in VLSFO prices. We upgrade Eagle Bulk to HOLD, and not BUY, given the share’s recent outperformance vs peers. We use the same valuation matrix for all our covered companies.

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    On average, a 10% increase in asset prices leads to a 20% increase in NAVs. Please see column epsilon in the peer table for exact elasticity per company:

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    Recent relevant research:

    8 Mar: Shipping Weekly 10/2021

    16 Feb: Dry Bulk Shipping Webinar 16 February

    31 Jan: Shipping Report 2021

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    • March 12, 2021 at 11:00 AM
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    On average, a 10% increase in asset prices leads to a 20% increase in NAVs.


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    • March 12, 2021 at 11:34 AM
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    Smax

    Mar 22000

    Apr. 22150

    May 19850

    Q2.. 19825

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    • March 12, 2021 at 11:50 AM
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    Kamsarmax Lady Giovi (2007, JP) was floated on Tuesday w a $13.5-14m ask. A lot of interest, now said to have been sold at ~$16m. Just incredible! ~26% above our revised asset prices from yesterday...

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    • March 12, 2021 at 12:48 PM
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    Floki je počeo prodavati koei. Mislim da bi ga uskoro mogli vidjeti u brodarima. Živi bili, pa vidjeli......

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    • March 12, 2021 at 1:33 PM
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    Quote from jasko

    Floki je počeo prodavati koei. Mislim da bi ga uskoro mogli vidjeti u brodarima. Živi bili, pa vidjeli......

    To bi bilo zanimljivo, kao nekad ;)

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    • March 12, 2021 at 2:25 PM
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    Baltic Dry-indeksen - 0,5 prosent til 1.960 poeng, ifølge The Baltic Exchange.

    • Capesize - 3,5 prosent til 16.741 dollar pr. dag.
    • Panamax + 1,2 prosent til 18.842 dollar pr. dag.
    • Handysize + 2,1 prosent til 21.130 dollar pr. dag.
    • Supramax + 1,3 prosent til 22.844 dollar pr. dag.
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    • March 12, 2021 at 2:42 PM
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    Supramax 22189

    Support....... Resistance

    S1 19995....,, R1 22375

    S2 19337....,, R2 23749

    S3 18445...... R3 25706

    Supramax 22844

    Support........ Resistance

    S1 21200...... R1 22375

    S2 20800...... R2 23749

    S3 19995...... R3 25706

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