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  • migra
  • January 16, 2021 at 10:18 AM
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    • March 14, 2021 at 1:32 PM
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    This is what things looked like just four weeks ago. It has been very rare within the last 2-3 years to see traffic this light in any month.                                                                                                                                          

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  • migra
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    • March 14, 2021 at 1:45 PM
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    DA,promjena je dramatična,biće da kinezi najviše vole svinjetinu?

    a i da si je mogu sve lakše priuštiti ,di je tome kraj?

    trend priuštavanja jaaaako teško da će se promjeniti?

    promjena današnjih prehrambenih navika?još teže,stoljećima su oskudjevali pa sada moraju,žele...

    teoretski kada nebi kinezi,vole oni proizvoditi za svijet,a i svijet svakim danom želi,može platiti više...

    posljedice?

    sve samo NE "ništa posebno" ako se mene pita....

    iako nedavno sam ocijenjen od generala prošlosti kao slab logičar ;( ^^ pa...

    možda i griješim,nebi bilo....

    :saint:

    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

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    • March 14, 2021 at 2:09 PM
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    Dry bulk’s year to date

    Rates for Capesizes — bulkers with capacity of around 180,000 deadweight tons (DWT) — briefly shot up to 10-year highs in January. Since then, smaller bulker classes have outperformed. Clarksons reported Friday that Supramaxes (45,000- to 60,000-DWT bulkers) were earning an average of $22,600 per day. That’s the highest rate for Supramaxes since 2010.

    According to Clarksons Platou Securities analyst Frode Mørkedal, “Dry bulk equities are the best-performing sector year-to-date, up 58% on average, and are pricing in 1.09 times NAV on average. Investors should not look too closely at the dry bulk NAVs, however, as vessel values are significantly lagging time-charter rates, which are at a 10-year high. Based on vessel values seen in prior periods when freight rates were at the same level, dry bulk NAVs could roughly double.”

    Since Jan. 1, shares of Seanergy (NASDAQ: SHIP) are up 133%, Safe Bulkers (NYSE: SB) 120%, Eagle Bulk (NASDAQ: EGLE) 106%, Star Bulk (NASDAQ: SBLK) 81%, Genco (NYSE: GNK) 58% and Golden Ocean (NASDAQ: GOGL) 41%. https://www.freightwaves.com/news/full-stea…shipping-stocks

    Tko je ovdje uložio, obogatio se. Na ZSE brodarima to je (trenutno) san.

  • migra
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    • March 14, 2021 at 3:29 PM
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    Baltic index registers second straight weekly gain

    ....It hit a 5-month peak earlier this week.....

    rast dva tjedna u nizu uključujući petomjesečni vrh?

    kao posljedica dokaza na dokaze a što će u budućnosti donjeti trenutni dokazi na dokaze?

    a) pad

    b)"ništa posebno"

    c)još veće vrhunce

    d)nikad veće vrhunce

    na pojedinačnoj razini capesize je največi koćničar iako buđenje nije sporno.

    The capesize index fell 73 points, or 3.5%, to 2,019.

    The index, however, added 13.2% this week, its second straight weekly rise.

    The panamax index gained 25 points, or 1.1%, to 2,242. It was up 4.7% for the week.

    The supramax index rose 26 points to 2,077, its highest since at least April 2017


    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

  • migra
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    • March 14, 2021 at 3:42 PM
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    dali krivo gledam,percipiram,logiciram kad se ne zamaram razmišljanjem dali će u 2021 pasti kota 2500,već me kopka dali BDI može srušiti kotu 3000?

    kotu 2000 ne spominjem jer to držim gotovom stvari.

    gdje vi vidite BDI u 2021?

    ne košta ništa a imat ćemo materijala za rezime nekad pa raspalite,ne žalite tinte i papira,tipkovnice....

    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

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    • March 14, 2021 at 6:08 PM
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    Vidim ga +30% gore, na 2600.Moja prognoza.

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    • March 14, 2021 at 7:03 PM
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    Cleaves ga vidi na 1575 EoY pa tko sam ja da kazem drugacije 8|

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    • March 14, 2021 at 7:25 PM
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    Prosjek je bitan.

    Dosad je negdje oko 1600-1700, ako se ne varam, sto je vrlo dobro.

    A ocekujemo i bolje.

    Bolje je jeftino kupovati nego jeftino prodavati.

  • migra
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    • March 14, 2021 at 7:51 PM
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    Quote from looserst

    Cleaves ga vidi na 1575 EoY pa tko sam ja da kazem drugacije 8|

    Joakim je svjetski analitičar,možda i najbolji ali i njegove prognoze zna nemalo iznenaditi stvarnost,njegova očekivanja za 4q su bila bolja od onog što se materijaliziralo,a što tek reći za "potop" koji je najavljivao za siječanj a dogodilo se dijametralno suprotno.

    njegovi izvori informacija su impresivni i omogućavaju nam da iz njih izvlačimo vlastita očekivanja.

    znači generalno je smjer dobro predvidio ali u dva promašaja.

    bilo je to suprotno od dugogodišnje uvriježenih obrazaca pa se može reći opravdani promašaji :)

    tako da svi mi imamo pravo na vlastito mišljenje i vlastite promašaje.

    time will tell tko je bio bliži ostvarenom.

    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

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    • March 14, 2021 at 8:54 PM
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    Quick Comment: Positive Revision of Dry Bulk Asset Prices & TP

    https://5f38c3be-c80e-4113-8699-341bc56851e6.usrfiles.com/ugd/5f38c3_e5a…8d8fec52a6a.pdf

    As we highlighted in our Dry Bulk Shipping Webinar 16 February, the relationship between 1y TCs and asset values is statistical significant and could at mid-February levels support asset prices 18-29% higher. With the recent surge in 1y TCs, the similar range vs mid-February would be 20-53%.

  • migra
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    • March 14, 2021 at 10:12 PM
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    znači do sada je bilo "ništa posebno" a sada sljedi još ništa posebnije ;(

    ah taj marfi... :saint:

    As we highlighted in our Dry Bulk Shipping Webinar 16 February, the relationship between 1y TCs and asset values is statistical significant and could at mid-February levels support asset prices 18-29% higher. With the recent surge in 1y TCs, the similar range vs mid-February would be 20-53%.

    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

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    • March 14, 2021 at 10:23 PM
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    uskoro ćemo postati svemirski poznati,po jedinom dry bulkeru trnoružici u svemiru.

    šteta da ATPL nije dio Joakimovog "our univers"

    gdje bi bili danas 3xx,4xx?

    a da se njemu javimo i pitamo ga?

    možda bi on bio zainteresiran za ovakav u svemiru jedinstven slučaj?

    za sada je još razmatranju ali ako neće biti druge...

    tko zna možda bi i on imao nekog tko bi kroz dionice kupovao željezne grdosije koje postaju sve poželjnija roba(cash machine) sa značajnim diskontom? :/

    :)

    p.s.

    imam neke od perjanica iz joakimovog "our univers"

    ne pozivam na kupnju-prodaju,očekujem da me netko svojim razmišljanjima i argumentima potakne na novo razmišljanje.isprike na dužini posta,tipfelerima...

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    • March 15, 2021 at 9:05 AM
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    Quote from migra

    dali krivo gledam,percipiram,logiciram kad se ne zamaram razmišljanjem dali će u 2021 pasti kota 2500,već me kopka dali BDI može srušiti kotu 3000?

    kotu 2000 ne spominjem jer to držim gotovom stvari.

    gdje vi vidite BDI u 2021?

    ne košta ništa a imat ćemo materijala za rezime nekad pa raspalite,ne žalite tinte i papira,tipkovnice....

    Vidim kotu 4000 8|                                                                                                                                                                            

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    • March 15, 2021 at 9:23 AM
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    Shipping Weekly 11/2021 https://fda195ed-9571-42ec-b092-d42af79f832c.usrfiles.com/ugd/fda195_97b…d53d4deceb0.pdf

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    • March 15, 2021 at 10:24 AM
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    Pmax

    Apr. 21500

    May 21000

    Q2... 20650

    Smax

    Apr. 22000

    May 20250

    Q2... 20000

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    • March 15, 2021 at 10:41 AM
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    I hope you have your spreadsheets ready. NAV and earnings will move fast.                                                                

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    • March 15, 2021 at 11:43 AM
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    If asset prices improve into 2021 based on a combination of global economic improvements and some potential commodity inflation, then we could easily see NAV levels rise by 50-100% in many of the core dry bulk names. https://capitallinkshipping.com/dry-bulk-improves-where-to-buy/

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    • March 15, 2021 at 11:59 AM
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    Dry Bulk Market & Chinese Steel Prices And Production Continue To Fare Well https://www.breakwaveadvisors.com/insights/2021/…ue-to-fare-well

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    • March 15, 2021 at 12:15 PM
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    Baltic Capesize index +2% to $17,054

    Apr FFA +10% to $21,750
    May FFA +9% to $21,875

    Rast se nastavlja...... https://braemarscreen.com/home

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    • March 15, 2021 at 1:35 PM
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    Freight futures am update
    Capesize up ~9%
    Panamax up ~4%

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