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Ideje za trgovanje na inozemnim tržištima - Što i zašto ?

  • zlocesti
  • September 18, 2020 at 8:28 PM
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    • June 24, 2022 at 4:57 PM
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    zlocesti

    može pomoć oko TA, što u ovakvim situacijama?

    dionica je BHC, jako je pala a sad se vraća i koliko vidim zatvara jedan od gapova

    jel se to može nazvati kao proboj otpora?

    evo grah, 65min i dnevni s Finviza

    inače jeda od dionica koju ima 'gerijatrija' Lee Cooperman, svojevremeno sam ovdje dao jedan njegov intervju

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    • June 24, 2022 at 5:02 PM
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    Znači, nigdje neće bit recenzije, nego samo na kontejnerima. ^^

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    • June 24, 2022 at 5:13 PM
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    Idem viriti

    Na prvi pogled probilo je lijepo, na velikom volumenu

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    Quote from zlocesti

    Idem viriti

    Na prvi pogled probilo je lijepo, na velikom volumenu

    bit će da je zbog ovog, ova njuška ulazi u odbor: Hedge Fund Paulson Becomes Chairman

    i to je sve vezano uz jedan (ili dva) IPO-a koji spremaju

    dva spinoff

    pričekat drugi tjedan da se primiri i malo čvaknuti, ne bi škodilo...

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    • June 24, 2022 at 5:31 PM
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    Quote from BSOD

    Ima kakav poseban razlog zašto je sve buknulo prema gore u 16.00 h?

    Kakva bulčina!

    Gamma skvizac.

    The content cannot be displayed because you do not have authorisation to view this content.

    Metamoron sitting on a blockchair hallucinating about degenerative AI.

  • zlocesti
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    • June 24, 2022 at 5:35 PM
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    Account, ne bih ja to

    Meni to liči na Pump and Dump

    To je papir skroz na tlu, i mora biti neki razlog zbog takvog pada cijene, i mora da je još uvijek valjan taj razlog

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    • June 24, 2022 at 6:16 PM
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    Quote from accountant
    Quote from havi

    Valjda zato jer je vecina strucnjaka prognozirala pad.

    ne, nego su new home sales za svibanj, unatoč očekivanjima, fino nadmašile brojkom

    to je diglo i US02Y, i naftu i sve drugo

    i ne samo to, KMX je izbacio dobre brojke za prodaju rabljenih auta, diona je još prošli tjedan bila ispod $90, sad je na $98.37 trenutno

    =O

    očekivani tehnički odbijanac zbog debelo preprodanog tržišta koji ide do zone 3850/4000 a onda ponovo kreče zbrajanje i oduzimanje da li ima više vjetra u leđa ili u prsa a tu je računica jasna.......

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    • June 24, 2022 at 6:41 PM
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    Quote from hugh
    Quote from accountant

    ne, nego su new home sales za svibanj, unatoč očekivanjima, fino nadmašile brojkom

    to je diglo i US02Y, i naftu i sve drugo

    i ne samo to, KMX je izbacio dobre brojke za prodaju rabljenih auta, diona je još prošli tjedan bila ispod $90, sad je na $98.37 trenutno

    =O

    očekivani tehnički odbijanac zbog debelo preprodanog tržišta koji ide do zone 3850/4000 a onda ponovo kreče zbrajanje i oduzimanje da li ima više vjetra u leđa ili u prsa a tu je računica jasna.......

    Europe closes sharply higher on US data

    European stocks finished the last trading session of the week with strong gains after the University of Michigan's final United States consumer confidence report for June showed that five-year inflation expectations have been revised down to 3.1% from 3.3% in the preliminary report. As the preliminary report data alarmed the Federal Reserve to hike its interest rates by 75 instead of the previously-planned 50 basis points earlier this month, investors are seemingly hoping that the downward revision will cause the central bank of the world's strongest economy to opt for rate hikes lower than 75 bp in the future.

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    • June 24, 2022 at 11:15 PM
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    Pozdrav svima. Evo za prvi post samo da javim da sam u 21:55 usao u short pozicije nekoliko tech dionica - stop loss na 4% pa cemo vidjeti.

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    • June 25, 2022 at 11:33 AM
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    Quote from Bankar

    Pozdrav svima. Evo za prvi post samo da javim da sam u 21:55 usao u short pozicije nekoliko tech dionica - stop loss na 4% pa cemo vidjeti.

    Hrabro, nema šta! Vani se piše o bull marketu u bear marketu (možda tjedan, dva). A rally u petak je opet izazvao sitni retail i gama squeeze. Znači bez kito-psina. Vijesti su pozitiva, npr. Celsius network bailed by Goldman... Botovi će trgovati sukladno naslovnicama (Michigan inflation expectations flat, New Home Sales Up 10%) a imamo i ovo:

    Quote

    ... For the first time in a while bond markets challenging the Fed on the dovish side rather than pricing terminal rates way higher than implied by dots...

    Ja se ne bih gurao u šort dok mi to graf ne pokaže, zatvaranje u petak je bilo bullish as f...

    Sretno! Javite kako je prošlo <3

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    • June 25, 2022 at 9:02 PM
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    Evo nekih brojeva o kontejnerašima s Mintzovog foruma, nisu njegovi nego od nicka frko. Valuacije su napravljene uz pretpostavku teških medvjeda. Naravno, ne znači da DAC i banda ne mogu još dole, dapače, ali ove razine su privlačne poput vjetrovke HDZ-a koja otvara sva vrata.

    DAC-GSL-ESEA-MPCC: Last week we looked at EBITDA backlog as a % of EV and market cap as one of several valuation metrics. The backlog includes material EBITDA already secured for the years after 2025, esp. in the case of DAC and GSL. However, In a stress scenario we should assume that the containership lessors won't generate material positive cash flows after 2025. Consequently, if we disregard all contracted revenues as from 2026 as these - together with future revenues not yet contracted - will barely cover each company's expenses in a stress scenario, and if we instead concentrate only on the profitable years until (and including) 2025 with fleets only valued at scrap thereafter, the picture looks like this (all numbers are in dollars per share, MPCC in NOK per share):


    ESEA:

    52.93 OCF Q2 '22-Q4'25

    - 18.78 current net debt incl. capex for 2 NBs that have already secured charters

    + 23.45 fleet valued at scrap (400lwt) and 2 NBs at 20% discount

    *= 57.60 remaining value = 138% above current share price*

    *= 49.38 remaining value = 104% above share price with capex for all 9 NBs included in net debt and 20% value discount for all 9 NBs*


    DAC:

    106.86 OCF Q2 '22-Q4'25

    - 51.64 current net debt excl. NB capex

    + 32.03 fleet valued at scrap (400lwt)

    + 5.96 net proceeds from sale of 2 vessels

    + 12.39 ZIM stake valued at 45/sh

    *= 105.60 remaining value = 70% above current share price*

    *= 101.75 remaining value = 64% above current share price with capex for all NBs included in net debt and 20% value discount for all NBs*


    MPCC:

    31.10 OCF Q2 '22-Q4'25

    - 7.94 current net debt incl. capex for 2 NBs with secured charters

    + 7.77 fleet valued at scrap (400lwt) and 2 NBs at 20% discount

    *= 30.93 remaining value = 55% above current share price*


    GSL:

    38.98 OCF Q2 '22-Q4'25

    - 28.94 current net debt incl. preferred capital

    + 15.90 fleet valued at scrap (400lwt)

    *= 25.94 remaining value = 52% above current share price*


    The bear argument by many (not all) has been that containership lessors will trade at a (steep?) discount to a rapidly falling NAV in a bear market during which charter rates and fleet values crash. However, it is hard to imagine that the market will value the fleets even below scrap value for a sustained period of time. Therefore, imo, the aforementioned numbers should be regarded as a valuation floor that builds over time with cash flow generation, unless managements decide to keep unprofitable, cash-burning vessels in operation after 2025.


    All OCF numbers include est. dd expenses and are not discounted. For companies which have ordered newbuilds, but have not yet secured charters for all NBs, I have calculated the values separately with and without the NBs which have not yet been put on charters. For MPCC I have assumed a USD/NOK exchange rate of 9.5.

  • zlocesti
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    • June 26, 2022 at 11:04 AM
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    "First Real Buying In 3 Weeks"; Goldman Trader Explains Why Friday's Surge Is The Start Of The Next Big Move Higher | ZeroHedge

    Sve mahnito. Burza se ponovno odvojila od stvarnosti

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    • June 26, 2022 at 4:55 PM
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    Kontejneri "falling of a cliff":

    Ports on Both Coasts Report Record Volume in May
    The strong pace of imported goods to the nation’s ports continued in May.
    www.ttnews.com
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    • June 27, 2022 at 5:01 PM
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    Quote from Bankar

    Pozdrav svima. Evo za prvi post samo da javim da sam u 21:55 usao u short pozicije nekoliko tech dionica - stop loss na 4% pa cemo vidjeti.

    Ako ste se držali ovoga, pun pogodak :thumbup:

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    • June 27, 2022 at 5:36 PM
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    Quote from accountant

    Ako ste se držali ovoga, pun pogodak :thumbup:

    Pogledat malo VIX buducnosnice za uhvatit kud ce market jos danas i sutra.

    Metamoron sitting on a blockchair hallucinating about degenerative AI.

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    • June 27, 2022 at 9:47 PM
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    Danas se fino zazelenilo.

    jos 2-3 put ovako i na 0 sam :D

    The content cannot be displayed because you do not have authorisation to view this content.

    Nadmudrivanje sa budalom je kao hrvanje sa svinjom u blatu ..... nakon nekog vremena skužiš da svinja uživa.

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    Fino se oporavljamo od gubitaka

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    • June 27, 2022 at 11:33 PM
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    Quote from accountant
    Quote from Bankar

    Pozdrav svima. Evo za prvi post samo da javim da sam u 21:55 usao u short pozicije nekoliko tech dionica - stop loss na 4% pa cemo vidjeti.

    Ako ste se držali ovoga, pun pogodak :thumbup:

    Jesam, no nista spektakularno (+2.1%). Zatvorio sve u 2100.

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    • June 28, 2022 at 5:52 AM
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    Obzirom da je isplivao narativ " budi pohlepan dok drugi jecaju" i "kineski znak za krizu je isti ko i prilika"; sad bi trebalo padat par dana.

    ""Shorteri svih zemalja ujedinite se"

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    • June 28, 2022 at 1:25 PM
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    "More Money In Your Pocket" - Newsom To Helicopter Drop $17 Billion In "Inflation Relief" Stimmy Checks  | ZeroHedge

    Novac je vaš, ideja moja, a ishod je isto vaš.

    Svugdje isto

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