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Ideje za trgovanje na inozemnim tržištima - Što i zašto ?

  • zlocesti
  • September 18, 2020 at 8:28 PM
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    • June 28, 2022 at 6:17 PM
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    imamo snažni odbijanac od 3,944.67

    već jednom smo ronili ispod i to u petak, 10.6., zaronili i ostali ispod svo ovo vrijeme

    nije neki (pred)znak za bulls

    graf S&P

    a taman su na IBD digital (tko ih prati, ja gledam dnevni izvještaj trgovanja na YTube-u) digli da je market u uptrendu

    ovo ne miriši na dobro... ali popratimo

    sutra i u četvrtak idu neke vijesti (mjerenja PCE i GDP) te centralni bankari

    nije valjda da je ovo uvertira?

  • zlocesti
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    • June 28, 2022 at 9:07 PM
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    Ko' švicarski sat

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  • zlocesti
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    Recession Questions Answered | Investing.com
    Market Overview Analysis by Michael Pento covering: S&P 500, NASDAQ Composite. Read Michael Pento's latest article on Investing.com
    www.investing.com

    Treba čekati index na 3200.

  • hugh
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    Quote from zlocesti

    Ko' švicarski sat

    trend koji se nosi ove godine je downtrend i jednostavno svaki reli treba prodati a oni koji su zaglavili, snove o vračanju na nulu trebaju ostaviti za vrijeme spavanja......za sada...... na vidiku nema nikakvih pozitivnih naznaka koje to mogu promjeniti.........ako se Fed ne šali i za ozbiljno nastavi "napade" na inflaciju bit će još i gore jel inflacija će i kad dotakne svoj vrh i dalje ostati visoka i trebat će se borit protiv nje i dalje a sve to sa sobom nosi i ostale posljedice koje nisu povoljne za tržišta.........

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    • June 28, 2022 at 10:08 PM
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    Nasdaq pao -3%, S&P -2%, Dow -1,56%

    Najvjerojatnije slijedi još par crvenih svijeća.

  • zlocesti
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    • June 28, 2022 at 10:11 PM
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    Siroti mi.

    Oni na ZSE se bogate. :S

    Ne mislim ni pipnuti papire do SPX 3200, a oni nek' se bogate. :S

  • lebowski
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    • June 29, 2022 at 8:03 AM
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    Da, eto, nema nikakvih dobrih vijesti, a ako indeksi i poskoče sitno, to je odbijanec. Inflacija isto može ići samo gore, dolje ne može nikako. Ako i ode dolje, to je odbijanec jer će ići gore.

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    • June 29, 2022 at 12:31 PM
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    Evo malo još o kontejnerima:

    Splash Extra June 2022


    While there is now strong evidence that container shipping's record bull run has peaked, analysts argue that unlike the last time the sector went from peak to trough this time around there is little chance of tough charter renegotiations.

    In the wake of 2008's global financial crisis, many liners found themselves in a precarious financial position.

    A famous story from that period saw one of the best known names in container shipping - now deceased - take a suite at the Atlantic Hotel in Hamburg and summon in a host of German tonnage providers to rip up his charter contracts with them in front of their faces. Similar abrupt charter renegotiations were widespread at the time.

    In 2022, liners have taken on a huge swathe of tonnage under onerous circumstances - at very high prices, and for longer periods than normal. The difference this time around as the Shanghai Containerized Freight Index and other indices show signs of slumping? Liners are in an extraordinary cash-rich position, something that should provide some reassurance to tonnage providers as the container market unwinds.

    Softening spot rates have fallen below long-term contracted rates this month, historically a firm pointer that the container sector is set to fall. Multiple surveys point towards a decrease in consumer demand on the back of soaring inflation. Major retailers have indicated lately inventory overstocking, something that is also pushing rates south.

    We are indeed at a turning point in the market, Peter Sand, chief analyst at freight rate benchmarking platform Xeneta, told Splash Extra. However, Sand said the key difference this time compared to previous turns in the cycle is simple: Liners are loaded with cash. No one is at the brink of bankruptcy because the blanket has been removed from underneath them.

    In 2021 and 2022, container shipping operators are on track to record all time high combined profits in excess of $400bn, with operating margins in the most recent quarterly reports on average above 50%.

    The kind of money operating owners have made in 2021 and will make in 2022 and 2023 have already paid for future charter hires, Sand said.

    Simon Heaney, senior manager of container research at UK analyst Drewry, concurred, saying the current situation is vastly different to the period following the global financial crisis.

    Liners will not be able to plead poverty after the bounty of the previous two years, with more to come in our view, Heaney said, adding: There is a growing risk for carriers to be stuck with expensive long-term fixtures after the freight rates boom has ended, but they now at least have a very plump cushion to fall back on.

    Hua Joo Tan, who heads up research outfit Linerlytica, said there was no charterer at risk of insolvency at the moment.

    Jan Tiedemann, a shipping analyst at Alphaliner, agreed with his peers, telling Splash Extra: Most carriers are sitting on a big fat pile of cash. So even when the economy turns sour, they should be able to pay their bills for the next few years.

    Drewry's World Container Index composite index decreased by 3% last week to $7,285.89 per feu, and is 10% lower than the same week in 2021, but still remains more than $3,500 higher than the five-year average.

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    • June 29, 2022 at 1:07 PM
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    Eto danas se narativ promijenio. Kriza je tu. Dno je daleko, i strmo ćemo prema njemu.


    Prežvakava se dvije godina star tekst ( danas sam našao njegove tri varijacije)

    1. dionice ne vrijede

    2. keš ne vrijedi

    3. Buffet i istali kupuju:

    a). contemporary art

    b). farme

    c). oldtimere

    d). vina i vinograde

  • lebowski
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    • June 29, 2022 at 2:03 PM
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    Dry bulk je dobar antirecesijski hedge s obzirom da je Kina 70% globalnog prijevoza.

    I vino, naravno, u svakom slučaju. ^^

  • lebowski
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    • June 29, 2022 at 2:24 PM
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    Njemačka inflacija manja od očekivane. Je li moguće da se ikad, ali ikad na svijetu takav podatak pojavi i za USA i što će to onda značiti u ovom inače vrlo racionalnom burzovnom sustavu?

    German Jun. CPI (MoM): 0.1%, [Est. 0.3%, Prev. 0.9%]
    German Jun. CPI (YoY): 7.6%, [Est. 8.0%, Prev. 7.9%]

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    • June 30, 2022 at 11:10 AM
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    Ove opcije su slatka swing igra.

    Kupio sam put 160 NVDA za 0.90$ u utorak, jučer sam utopio po 8$ u prvih 15 minuta na otvaranju.

    Riskria sam 80$. Dobar R/R omjer.

    Svakako, ne bih preporučio igru sa velikom količinom opcija, to može biti opasno (osjetio na vlastitoj koži).

    Ima'l kaj za short danas?

    :evil:

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    • June 30, 2022 at 11:20 AM
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    Futuresi u USA i danas u minusu

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    • June 30, 2022 at 11:39 AM
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    Quote from Chuck

    Futuresi u USA i danas u minusu

    Lijepo kupis malo DRIPa i zeru UVXYa i spavas mirno. Ako si uvjeren u propad.

    Metamoron sitting on a blockchair hallucinating about degenerative AI.

  • hugh
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    jel to Dax na novom dnu a Euro Stoxx testira razine na kojima je bio u nekoliko navrata ove god.?

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    • June 30, 2022 at 1:42 PM
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    Container ships still renting for $160,000 a day despite import fears
    Spot freight rates are easing, but in a sign of resilience, container-ship charter rates remain near all-time highs.
    www.freightwaves.com

    Kad čovjek pročita sve te falling-of-a-cliff članke, pomislio bi da vlasnici brodova trebaju platiti nekom da ih iznajme, kad ono, mauna!

    “This rate … is not far off the historical high of $175,000 per day [for that size category] obtained in January,” said Alphaliner.

    Palo sa 175.000 dolara dnevno na mizernih 149.000 dolara.

    Brokerage Harper Peterson & Co. publishes the Harpex index. The index (covering 700- to 8,500-TEU ships) peaked in mid-March, dipped slightly through April, held steady in May and began rising again this month. The Harpex is currently down 3% versus its peak, but still more than double its level at this time last year.

    Ja sam početkom tjedna dokupio DAC koji mi je smiješno jeftin, a kako izgleda, ovih dana bit će još smješnije jeftin.

    Već sad je globalni congestion (uključujući Europu) veći nego što je bio prošle godine, a svi ovi novi brodovi i strahovi vezani uz njih dolaze tek sredinom iduće godine. Sad kad se Kina otvorila, treba čekati mjesec-dva pa ćemo vidjeti što će se događati. Po meni, bit će još gore nego prošle godine, jer sad imamo congestion i na istočnoj obali i u pola Europe.

  • zlocesti
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    • June 30, 2022 at 1:55 PM
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    White House Is Quietly Modeling For $200 Oil "Shock" | ZeroHedge

    Nafta , kažu, 200 dolara.

    Jesus. Tko se nije skrio, magarac je bio ! :S

  • lebowski
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    https://lloydslist.maritimeintelligence.informa.com/LL1141319/Cont…ndemic-slowdown

    Sad je, u jeku mrtve sezone, 20 brodova u LA/LB, bitno manje od peaka na 109. Šteta što ne postoji podatak koliko je kontejneraša prošle godine u ovo vrijeme čekalo u LA/LB. Jer očito je da od peaka u siječnju sve do kraja lipnja taj congestion nije nestao, nego je pao sa 109 na 20. Drugdje je pak narastao, ako ćemo gledati Houston, Rotterdam, Hamburg... Koliko će ti sadašnji zastoji smetati dolasku nove robe? Ili će nove robe biti toliko manje da će nestati i ovih 20 u LA/LB. I još uz sve to, koliko je odmogla ili nije odmogla zero covid politika u Kini, odnosno jednomjesečni zastoj koji je postojao u Šangaju ili nije postojao? :)

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    • June 30, 2022 at 2:53 PM
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    Quote from my moon

    Obzirom da je isplivao narativ " budi pohlepan dok drugi jecaju" i "kineski znak za krizu je isti ko i prilika"; sad bi trebalo padat par dana.

    ""Shorteri svih zemalja ujedinite se"

    no, taman do petka, onda ćemo otkriti da stanje nije toliko loševi da postoji bezbroj ljupkih prilika jer je pe ee niski i platežna moć srednjeg sloja raste.

    Kod Atlanske sljedbe stvar je malo shizofrenija no brazilska soja je ove godine jeftinija jer je Bayer proizveo biološki fungicid koji je pospjeśio urod te će izvoz iz brazila za Evropu porasti [jer ukrajinske soje nema] to će izazvati shortage u Oceaniji time će australski iron ore postati nedostupniji/skuplji pa će Kinezi biti primorani posegnuti za flotom Vijetnama koja je do sada zbog cijene nafte bila usidrena u Kambodži. Vratimo se Bayeru kojem je baza fungicida plin iz Rusije a njega ni pa onda lg terminali i brodovi rastu a treba i taj fugicid razvozit okolo pa i kemijski promet raste [Tankerska!!] a sve samo brzinom krstarenja


    jer


    ko što čusmo

    nafta ide na 200 dolara.

    Zaključak: kupite Scorpio tankers jer će oni ići na Sunce/vjetar

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    • June 30, 2022 at 3:05 PM
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    Quote from my moon
    Quote from my moon

    Obzirom da je isplivao narativ " budi pohlepan dok drugi jecaju" i "kineski znak za krizu je isti ko i prilika"; sad bi trebalo padat par dana.

    ""Shorteri svih zemalja ujedinite se"

    no, taman do petka, onda ćemo otkriti da stanje nije toliko loševi da postoji bezbroj ljupkih prilika jer je pe ee niski i platežna moć srednjeg sloja raste.

    Kod Atlanske sljedbe stvar je malo shizofrenija no brazilska soja je ove godine jeftinija jer je Bayer proizveo biološki fungicid koji je pospjeśio urod te će izvoz iz brazila za Evropu porasti [jer ukrajinske soje nema] to će izazvati shortage u Oceaniji time će australski iron ore postati nedostupniji/skuplji pa će Kinezi biti primorani posegnuti za flotom Vijetnama koja je do sada zbog cijene nafte bila usidrena u Kambodži. Vratimo se Bayeru kojem je baza fungicida plin iz Rusije a njega ni pa onda lg terminali i brodovi rastu a treba i taj fugicid razvozit okolo pa i kemijski promet raste [Tankerska!!] a sve samo brzinom krstarenja


    jer


    ko što čusmo

    nafta ide na 200 dolara.

    Zaključak: kupite Scorpio tankers jer će oni ići na Sunce/vjetar

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    još neki prijedlog za Scorpio, u njemu sam dobrano izložen

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